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In reply to the discussion: Gaza. I agree it is a massacre and should stop immediately. [View all]Uncle Joe
(65,079 posts)68. Some points for you, but who is the victim?
Yes the post below is sexist and that's wrong, but you never acknowledged the legitimate points for that angry post, so I will recap.
I will also rephrase the UN post to a security council post.
"The one regarding the "U.S being Israel's bitch" is a direct reflection of U.S. unwavering support for Israel regardless of their government's actions."
The Congress came out in unanimous support for Israel's right to defend itself, which is a pretty redundant statement as any nation has a right to defend itself, the same should be said for oppressed peoples and the Palestinians would certainly qualify.
The Congress didn't come out in unanimous support for taking an oppressive blockade off the impoverished, Palestinians living in the open air prison of Gaza.
The Congress hasn't come out in unanimous support to halt the mass murder of innocent Palestinians living in Gaza, although President Obama did just condemn one UN school building being blown up killing women and children.
To my knowledge the Congress hasn't come out in unanimous support for a free and independent Palestine.
Can you address that contradiction?
Anytime a contention is before the Security Council condemning Israel for an atrocity perhaps sometimes deserved and sometimes not, the U.S. has virtually always been alone in vetoing it.
I also expanded "good" on to religion, specifically Christianity which you omitted in your rebuttal.
Re: "good jews" don't you believe it would be and was expected of good Americans to criticize our government not when they "do anything" as you stated but when they start wars based on lies and promote torture?
The same truth holds for religion "good Christians" even if they're not citizens of a particular nation should come forward and criticize atrocities, silence from other nations and religions was one dynamic that allowed the Holocaust to proceed.
Are you suggesting that if good Christians ie: the Pope etc. had spoke out against what was happening to the Jews in the 1930s this wouldn't have helped the situation?
You may believe the below quote is trope but it's true and I believe the man you cynically labeled as just being a "good jew" knows that.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edmundburk377528.html#cEk1yQw7EZfk1P9S.99
I would add the addendum of 'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men and women to do and/or say nothing.'
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Bonobo, I respect you. I understand the conflict. And I know you are a person of conscience.
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#10
Well said. No, Bibi does NOT represent Jews. He doesn't even represent most Israelis I think.
Bonobo
Jul 2014
#17
When I see people taking a slaughter of other human beings and making it about themselves...
Scootaloo
Jul 2014
#22
The Gaza Ghetto is severely aggravated by Israel's blockade. Any peoples trapped into a dense
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#44
I believe they were about to, Hamas was actively working to stop rocket attacks; which had decreased
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#48
Well apparently Brig.-Gen. Micky Edelstein, commander of the army’s Gaza Division did.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#59
I never said Netanyahu's government has committed a Holocaust but any nation is capable of doing so,
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#47
I implied it's possible and it is, the Germans and even Nazis don't have a monopoly on evil or
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#50
Strawmen aside (the Germans and even Nazis don't have a monopoly on evil )...
Behind the Aegis
Jul 2014
#52
Do you believe the man in the pic is feeding off the collective guilt of the Holocaust?
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#58
Yes. Because it is what is expected of "good Jews" when Israel does anything.
Behind the Aegis
Jul 2014
#60
I De-Facto acknowledged anti-semitism existed in my first post that you responded to.
Uncle Joe
Jul 2014
#63
Many of us live in a country that makes us feel that way everyday. I am not a Jew but your
jwirr
Jul 2014
#27
Good post. I know what you mean. And it's heartbreaking for all people who want peace.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#67
Because there is a seething antisemitism hiding just below the surface for many, many folks
TheKentuckian
Jul 2014
#78