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Fred Sanders

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69. America does not need a Warren or a Clinton, it needs an Obama supported by people. First the

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:43 PM

Jul 2014

support, then we get the Obama we want, he has always said that.

What can he do with a 100 to 0 Senate and a media allowed to run roughshod over truth?

Sometimes I think the white knight we all want has to be the reluctant black man, even without the support.

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Sen. Barbara Boxer has introduced a VERY pro-Israel bill...and it's co-sponsored by Elizabeth Warren [View all] Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 OP

OK. Boxer and Warren, I love them both. babylonsister Jul 2014 #1

Evidently there are some who think that people who prefer Warren to Hillary will djean111 Jul 2014 #6

No there are some here who are realists who know that there is no Saintly President coming VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #11

+1000 Solomon Jul 2014 #15

Except every time a post tries to spark that pyre against her Union Scribe Jul 2014 #16

uh I am not among the perpetually dissatisfied crowd who are building a pyre... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #20

Sure about that? Union Scribe Jul 2014 #23

I don't have a funeral pyre....I support whoever wins the Democratic Primary... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #47

Supporting the Democratic Primary winner doesn't mean we shouldn't whathehell Jul 2014 #102

Supporting WHOEVER can WIN....and whomever my fellow Democrats select.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #108

No one thought Obama could "win" initially either, if you recall. whathehell Jul 2014 #109

No one thinks she is a saint. djean111 Jul 2014 #18

Yet most Democrats disagree with you! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #21

Corporatists LOVE Hillary, for obvious reasons; they can have her. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #34

So all those millions that DO support HRC are all Corporatists.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #48

After 8 years RandiFan1290 Jul 2014 #50

It's a big deal if you don't vote Dem and a Repub wins. riqster Jul 2014 #81

its also a big deal here.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #96

Exactly right. That's in the TOS. It is why I am here. riqster Jul 2014 #99

Brilliantly and succinctly stated. You nailed it, right there. nt MADem Jul 2014 #27

Nailed it, Nailed it, Nailed it. Seriously. Number23 Jul 2014 #37

+1 there is not even a word about getting her a Democratic Congress treestar Jul 2014 #57

A little early to start talking of giving Hillary a Democratic Congress. djean111 Jul 2014 #65

Warren. treestar Jul 2014 #88

Yeah, it looks like a majority of us are realists. We are watching the reality play out sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #73

And what are you doing to stop the dead children? LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #101

Anyone who is POTUS will do something "corporate" treestar Jul 2014 #58

Really? Gosh, and here I was all set to vote in the Florida primary this month djean111 Jul 2014 #64

If Warren supports the slaugher of children in Gaza, I do not want her for ANY position sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #38

Yep. Just changed my signature line. Scuba Jul 2014 #41

Perhaps Boxer and Warren both can do nuance leftynyc Jul 2014 #45

There is no nuance in either party on Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #53

That you put the entire blame leftynyc Jul 2014 #54

That you couldn't read my short response Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #59

Unlike what you apparently believe about yourself leftynyc Jul 2014 #60

hmm. well you do like insults, however perhaps you could illuminate me. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #61

Perhaps they think that babies and innocent children are a threat to Israel's security? That kind sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #76

I see this history of hamas leftynyc Jul 2014 #77

The dead children were members of Hamas? I see you are using the Right Wing Israeli attack on our sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #79

Accusing me of being a right winger leftynyc Jul 2014 #91

The irony of this outrage AFTER you accused those of us who want this to stop of being 'Supporters sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #93

But you are supporting terrorists leftynyc Jul 2014 #94

Sure, me and John Kerry, we are supporting terrorists. Okay, if you say so. sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #95

John Kerry leftynyc Jul 2014 #107

Boycotts all over the world, those two countries are likely just the beginning. And point sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #110

Hyperbole is so incredibly not helpful leftynyc Aug 2014 #111

Uh, you do seem to be choosing the side that has the large child kill count DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #103

I don't want anything from you leftynyc Jul 2014 #104

So no children have been killed by the IDF? DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #106

so who are you left with now????? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #49

Lets reward Israel for murdering children 4now Jul 2014 #2

nobody should be surprised by this JI7 Jul 2014 #3

I am surprised by this. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2014 #5

it's an issue where those who oppose it still usually don't have it as a top issue JI7 Jul 2014 #8

Very true Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #10

In that case, they are among the more cowardly senators Mutiny In Heaven Jul 2014 #70

Yes, and it's bipartisan. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #9

Cant' really compare it to the NRA leftynyc Jul 2014 #46

I am also surprised. Mojorabbit Jul 2014 #40

Hooray for Sen. Boxer and Sen. Warren. IronGate Jul 2014 #4

15 minutes. Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #19

I'm with you, Major. Cha Jul 2014 #36

^This AnalystInParadise Jul 2014 #29

You know, I like both of these women very much Skidmore Jul 2014 #42

In other words, 77 Senators want to continue to sponsor Israel's war crimes. morningfog Jul 2014 #7

Agree with you 100% ann--- Jul 2014 #32

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #12

Why should Israel be working with US Policy on Energy, Water, Homeland Security and Alternative Fuel KoKo Jul 2014 #13

This is one of the rare times I agree with you davidpdx Jul 2014 #39

Okay. LWolf Jul 2014 #14

Nah. Just his daily wiff at Warren and/or Greenwald MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #22

Prepare Ye the Way of the Clinton! nt Union Scribe Jul 2014 #24

Yup, callin all Hillabots! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #35

That really doesn't make much sense. I'm clearing the way for Hillary? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #56

Doubtless, as you've done in the past, you'll MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #66

Aren't you the same person that voted for Reagan and said you'd overturn the election of Obama... Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #68

That's what I thought, LWolf Aug 2014 #112

They could add phrases there demanding humane care of Trillo Jul 2014 #17

Both are smart and we're lucky to have them in the Senate. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #25

No, they just "kowtow" to another countries extremists. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #26

what could be a greater sign of moderation than Senators who put a foreign country's interest Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #72

Pretty sure Israel can do more for us and Warren/Boxer than anyone in the Gaza Strip. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #74

Anyone who thinks this kind of blind support for Israel is helping America's influence in the world Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #75

With a bill like that, you'd think they were pounding the shit out of the US instead of Gaza Scootaloo Jul 2014 #28

That is why, after ann--- Jul 2014 #31

"I will write in Jimmy Carter for president only." EX500rider Jul 2014 #84

There are other issues Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #97

Politicians are sure to disappoint MaggieD Jul 2014 #33

We can always count on the Generals!! RandiFan1290 Jul 2014 #43

This is why folks should consider looking at systemic issues TBF Jul 2014 #44

They are on my call list today.... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #51

Well, I'll have to withdraw my support of Warren. 99Forever Jul 2014 #52

That sounds unrelated for the most part treestar Jul 2014 #55

Give them nothing until the slaughter of innocent civilians stops. I am sickened that we are funding Pisces Jul 2014 #62

more appeal to authority fallacies TheSarcastinator Jul 2014 #63

It's actually the opposite. It's a criticism of those senators. stevenleser Jul 2014 #78

America does not need a Warren or a Clinton, it needs an Obama supported by people. First the Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #69

okay, NOW you have convinced me - I will no more support Warren than I would support Clinton Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #71

What the hell? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #82

well obviously you have been trying to put a dampener on the idea of a Warren candidacy Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #86

"obviously" I have been trying to put a dampener on a Warren candidacy? Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #87

why am I focused on 2016? Now that is an odd thing for you to say. Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #89

2014 comes before 2016 Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #90

Money Talks n2doc Jul 2014 #80

Ugh. Blood on their hands. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #83

Elizabeth Warren under the bus, too, MineralMan Jul 2014 #85

Warren is a lightweight on foriegn policy betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #92

Al Franken, Sherrod Brown, and Sheldon Whitehouse also co-sponsored. MirrorAshes Jul 2014 #98

Well, well....another Warren retweet by Glen Greenwald. How interesting. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #100

Yuck. bigwillq Jul 2014 #105