"Obama has governed as a conservative. So, the question for progressives is, “What do we do now?”

[Honeycombe8]

187. Are you talking about his personal views on gay marriage?

He has a right to his personal views, and his personal views have nothing to do with gay marriage rights. The question is: What has he DONE?

Abraham Lincoln thought black people were less than white people, and should probably be shipped out of the country after the Civil War.

It's important to distinguish the right of every person to hold a personal view from the public position and behavior that a person exhibits.

His personal beliefs are rooted in his religion, his religious upbringing, and his culture. None of us are free from those influences. But he didn't force his personal views on others, did he? There is the difference between someone who TRULY wants individual freedom for all, and those who just talk about it.

Objectively speaking, there is no doubt that Obama is a left of center politician. He is definitely not right of center. He is not far left. No President ever is or ever will be. That's because most Americans are not far left and will not elect one.

He has pushed through a stimulus (a liberal bill), governed on the Democratic Party platform, signed an equal pay acts bill, set aside millions of acres for preservation, passed a health care reform bill that provides subsidized health care to millions and broadens free health care for children and the poor, and many other non-conservative things.

Only someone truly ignorant would try to convince people that Obama is conservative. And only a fool would follow that pied piper over the cliff.

When the right thinks you are a dangerous leftie wacko, and the far left thinks you're conservative....that's when you know you've got it right.

Clinton did a lot of damage when he was President, passing the extremely harmful NAFTA. I don't recall DUers decrying him as a sell-out, a conservative, etc.

Why would they claim Obama is? What is different about Obama? Hmmmmmm.