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In reply to the discussion: Did YOU hear RFK, Jr. mentioned in the Public Eye over the last 18 months? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)121. ''Your manners overwhelm me.''
For those interested in learning what we've learned since then:
Bobby Kennedy: America's first assassination conspiracy theorist
May 13, 2007
BY DAVID TALBOT
One of the most intriguing mysteries about the assassination of John F. Kennedy, that darkest of American labyrinths, is why his brother Robert F. Kennedy apparently did nothing to investigate the crime. Bobby Kennedy was, after all, not just the attorney general of the United States at the time of the assassination -- he was his brother's devoted partner, the man who took on the administration's most grueling assignments, from civil rights to organized crime to Cuba, the hottest Cold War flash point of its day. But after the burst of gunfire in downtown Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963, ended this unique partnership, Bobby Kennedy seemed lost in a fog of grief, refusing to discuss the assassination with the Warren Commission and telling friends he had no heart for an aggressive investigation. "What difference does it make?" he would say. "It won't bring him back."
But Bobby Kennedy was a complex man, and his years in Washington had taught him to keep his own counsel and proceed in a subterranean fashion. What he said in public about Dallas was not the full story. Privately, RFK -- who had made his name in the 1950s as a relentless investigator of the underside of American power -- was consumed by the need to know the real story about his brother's assassination. This fire seized him on the afternoon of Nov. 22, as soon as FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, a bitter political enemy, phoned to say -- almost with pleasure, thought Bobby -- that the president had been shot. And the question of who killed his brother continued to haunt Kennedy until the day he too was gunned down, on June 5, 1968.
Because of his proclivity for operating in secret, RFK did not leave behind a documentary record of his inquiries into his brother's assassination. But it is possible to retrace his investigative trail, beginning with the afternoon of Nov. 22, when he frantically worked the phones at Hickory Hill -- his Civil War-era mansion in McLean, Va. -- and summoned aides and government officials to his home. Lit up with the clarity of shock, the electricity of adrenaline, Bobby Kennedy constructed the outlines of the crime that day -- a crime, he immediately concluded, that went far beyond Lee Harvey Oswald, the 24-year-old ex-Marine arrested shortly after the assassination. Robert Kennedy was America's first assassination conspiracy theorist.
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A stunning outburst
Meanwhile, as Lyndon Johnson -- a man with whom he had a storied antagonistic relationship -- flew east from Dallas to assume the powers of the presidency, Bobby Kennedy used his fleeting authority to ferret out the truth. After hearing his brother had died at Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Kennedy phoned CIA headquarters, just down the road in Langley, where he often began his day, stopping there to work on Cuba-related business. Bobby's phone call to Langley on the afternoon of Nov. 22 was a stunning outburst. Getting a ranking official on the phone -- whose identity is still unknown -- Kennedy confronted him in a voice vibrating with fury and pain. "Did your outfit have anything to do with this horror?" Kennedy erupted.
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Kennedy had another revealing phone conversation on the afternoon of Nov. 22. Speaking with Enrique "Harry" Ruiz-Williams, a Bay of Pigs veteran who was his most trusted ally among exiled political leaders, Bobby shocked his friend by telling him point-blank, "One of your guys did it." Who did Kennedy mean? By then Oswald had been arrested in Dallas. The CIA and its anti-Castro client groups were already trying to connect the alleged assassin to the Havana regime. But as Kennedy's blunt remark to Williams makes clear, the attorney general wasn't buying it. Recent evidence suggests that Bobby Kennedy had heard the name Lee Harvey Oswald long before it exploded in news bulletins around the world, and he connected it with the government's underground war on Castro. With Oswald's arrest in Dallas, Kennedy apparently realized that the government's clandestine campaign against Castro had boomeranged at his brother.
CONTINUED (internet archive, can't find mention via Chicago Sun-Times search)...
https://web.archive.org/web/20070518094233/http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/383811,CST-CONT-kennedy13.article
At the Duquesne conference, Talbot explained why RFK may have taken the pro-Warren report position in public. If his brother were killed by a conspiracy, most, if not all, of its members would still be at large.
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Did YOU hear RFK, Jr. mentioned in the Public Eye over the last 18 months? [View all]
Octafish
Jul 2014
OP
Why do you keep repeating that, SidDithers of DU? Do you want me to be a Republican?
Octafish
Jul 2014
#34
"important news about his father's beliefs in regards to the assassination of the President."
zappaman
Jul 2014
#61
Here in Detroit, his dad's POV regarding JFK assassination was reported in the Free Press...
Octafish
Jul 2014
#35
Still upset the Kennedy kids didn't blow the lid of the assassinations last year...
zappaman
Jul 2014
#9
His 'daddy' was Robert F. Kennedy whose opinion on his brother's assassination is of great interest
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#11
Ted Kennedy was a human being who was not infallible. He was eg, totally wrong about Bush Jr's
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#42
How would I know, I wasn't privy to their personal conversations. It's very likely that he did not
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#119
Lol, thanks Octafish. Apparently it worked as I saw a snarky comment yesterday about 'waiting for
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#10
Not sure. I do know RFK, Jr. and his sister said what their good father told them.
Octafish
Jul 2014
#36
Not sure? Interesting. Kennedys are about as large of a dynasty as you will ever see.
NCTraveler
Jul 2014
#44
Since dynasties appear to be 'in' these days, I most definitely 'like to pick and choose' as you put
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#103
Well, we've done appreciation threads, 50 shades threads....is RFK going to be the new thing we all
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#13
We gotta make a "Summer Camp" weekly schedule! If I knew how to do that, I would, but
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#19
My purpose is to gauge DUers' awareness of Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy's real views.
Octafish
Jul 2014
#117
Following your tangent, Alvin Toffler predicted this, way back in the 1970s
Electric Monk
Jul 2014
#21
a lot of perfectly normal people believe crazy things. Believing that vacines cause autism in
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2014
#20
I've long since stopped being surprised by the anti-science nonsense that gets posted here.
NuclearDem
Jul 2014
#80
No no no.. Not opinion.. Medical research even from the time it was removed
MattBaggins
Jul 2014
#97
Thank you, most of us here on DU are pretty smart. Whenever we see something that looks like a
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#39
You are a wiser person than I am H20 Man, not to engage such wonderful people. I'm afraid I can't
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#41
Horrible that this happened to your nephew. And wonderful of RFK Jr to come to your assistance in
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#118
Yes, it can. It's not the DU we first came to, that's for sure. But it's the internet, and we have
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#107
VERY astute: "I suspect that RFK is working on something important, possibly FRACKING, just a guess"
Hekate
Jul 2014
#128
Those who study the Kennedy assassinations understand these cogent arguments to "Public Eye"
MrMickeysMom
Jul 2014
#105
Lol, that reminds of Wilbur from Charlotte's Web when he tried to argue that
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#131
I did see it. And I thought about DU's Kennedy bashers and wonder how I came to be on
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#133