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MFrohike

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43. That's an illogical talking point

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 11:42 PM

Jul 2014

No law passed by Congress can require a president not to just enforce it, but to actively oppose its repeal. Forget the free speech issue, it would be a clear and blatant violation of separation of powers. The president would be duty-bound to ignore such a law.* Whoever made this argument is either an idiot or assumes everyone else is an idiot who's completely unfamiliar with the constitution.

*This doesn't mean that Congress couldn't limit the ability of federal employees to advocate for repeal in their capacity as federal employees.

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White House: "Marijuana should remain illegal" [View all] MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 OP

So sad Politicalboi Jul 2014 #1

Hilary said that, did she? Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #21

White House Is Illegal billhicks76 Aug 2014 #66

It will be a sandwich crisis BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #2

What if it's a toasted sub, the toasted guy loses MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #4

What if the stoner who's making my coffee BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #5

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But we can smell alcohol on a person's breath MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #8

look in their eyes and judge their behavior NightWatcher Jul 2014 #9

Visine. N/t shanti Aug 2014 #69

not a problem at all manny. easychoice Jul 2014 #31

Don't defy too hard! BobbyBoring Jul 2014 #35

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Yup! There's is illegal:p grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #60

Other stoners know Manny, other stoners know... rppper Aug 2014 #75

I guess some people need to evolve more on this issue. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #3

Exactly customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #37

Joe pushed bankruptcy reform that has been a horrible anchor on the struggling working class. nt stillwaiting Aug 2014 #56

How so? customerserviceguy Aug 2014 #62

He's from the Credit Card State. That's his "anchor." Those guys kept him in the Senate for years. MADem Aug 2014 #63

So we can expect repubs to take the opposite position. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #6

Rand Paul is already there n2doc Aug 2014 #70

BOO :( JaneyVee Jul 2014 #10

Democrats. Arguing against pot prior to an election leftstreet Jul 2014 #11

So much for change you can believe in... CanonRay Jul 2014 #12

"The White House is actually required by law to oppose all efforts to legalize a banned drug." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #13

I was going to highlight that too. passiveporcupine Jul 2014 #20

Don't ruin a good Obama punching session with facts. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #26

Sorry,...I should be stoned. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #29

Hopefully it's like christx30 Jul 2014 #32

Bullroar. The White House is supposed to follow the will of Congress. Hoppy Jul 2014 #33

It's still on paper as against the law so on paper the Prez has to play the game. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #45

Then why didn't he play the game with gay marriage? Hoppy Aug 2014 #49

Maybe because DOMA was just an act. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #59

We were assured they had to fight for DOMA, too MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #34

Obama acted within 3 months of the filing of the Windsor suit. joshcryer Jul 2014 #41

That's an illogical talking point MFrohike Jul 2014 #43

I would have released that statement printed on ZigZag papers. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #46

Prohibition is a failed public policy, again. nt TeamPooka Jul 2014 #14

Hey, the War on Drugs is working exactly as it was intended ... Scuba Jul 2014 #15

^This.^ Somebody's bilking the Gov't for a TON of moolah!!! blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #17

$10 says that the CCA has something to do with this. Initech Jul 2014 #27

sigh it needs to be legal nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #16

Big pharma behind it all rickyhall Jul 2014 #18

Don't count out the alcohol industry... rppper Aug 2014 #78

Political Whoredom navarth Jul 2014 #19

"....because the Party that de-criminalizes it will lose the next Presidency." WinkyDink Jul 2014 #22

Most Americans favor legalization. MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #23

And I'm one of'em! But politicians get skeered. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #79

To be fair, this is the drug czar's office, not Obama. It's their job to say shit like that. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #24

It's not like this current crop of "leaders" have their own house in order. raindaddy Jul 2014 #25

You should file a lawsuit Manny. tridim Jul 2014 #28

yeah.well lying your asses off to the American public for 100yr's. easychoice Jul 2014 #30

Hope and change and stuff! villager Jul 2014 #36

K&R ReRe Jul 2014 #38

Damn 'em all to hell...... DeSwiss Jul 2014 #39

I have been pro MJ legalization Go Vols Jul 2014 #40

Maybe that guy will grow up to be President one day MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #57

Got keep those prisons supplied with non-violent drug offenders! Rex Jul 2014 #42

Say goodbye to the youth turnout in 14 and 16. williesgirl Aug 2014 #44

How many people do you really care ENOUGH about this issue to determine who they vote for? brooklynite Aug 2014 #61

Maybe they're "evolving" on this issue. nt Zorra Aug 2014 #47

Choom Gang excepted. Psephos Aug 2014 #48

What "We" Believe Does NOT Matter fredamae Aug 2014 #51

If Liz Warren came out in favor of fully legalizing pot, Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #52

Sadly, I don't think she will. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #53

She is not in favor of legalization. She's OK w/medical MJ. MADem Aug 2014 #76

Mr. President, I'm trying really hard to like you. But why do you keep favoring frivolous laws librechik Aug 2014 #54

Cool. As long as climate destroying industries will continue to get full support of US. raouldukelives Aug 2014 #55

The white house works for pharma, the prison industry, and the dea Doctor_J Aug 2014 #58

Reverse psychology. What you have to do WheelWalker Aug 2014 #64

Can't believe they took that position - what were they smoking? hueymahl Aug 2014 #65

How about a compromise, let's make it the least illegal possible. n/t hughee99 Aug 2014 #67

The Obama Grand Unification Principle MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #72

I'm shocked! NealK Aug 2014 #68

I hate to agree, but I do. JohnnyRingo Aug 2014 #71

If you want a President to support legalization, elect one that doesn't have two teenagers. bluedigger Aug 2014 #73

What have they been smoking? nt Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #74

torture, on the other hand... mike_c Aug 2014 #77