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62. The fine will be a lot cheaper than $307 a month

Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:59 PM

Aug 2014

Probably $200. It'll probably automatically come out of my taxes next year. The ACA isn't what many who support it think it is. It may be good for the very poor (making $14,000 or less per year), but it sucks for the regular poor and the middle class.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] lostincalifornia Aug 2014 OP

The FACT that it is working is not known by most people. tridim Aug 2014 #1

Agree, but I don't agree it's 100% the fault of corporate media. merrily Aug 2014 #3

Is Medicare as popular as ever? If so, the solution seems obvious. merrily Aug 2014 #2

Democrats have never been good at getting good messages out. I'm not sure RKP5637 Aug 2014 #4

Who owns all the media including NPR? rurallib Aug 2014 #5

All good points! We live in such a propagandized country controlled by several RKP5637 Aug 2014 #8

Mmmmm. Please see Reply 3. merrily Aug 2014 #14

Which slogans and other messages from the Democrats are the media failing to convey? merrily Aug 2014 #9

This, is the one I have never really understood, and many democrats are extremely wealthy. Wealth RKP5637 Aug 2014 #12

Since my first post in 2002. sendero Aug 2014 #17

And maybe also partly because it was a 2000 page bill and Americans merrily Aug 2014 #23

I'm not sure .. sendero Aug 2014 #27

You said Democrats lacked passion, then you said, merrily Aug 2014 #38

People will follow the guy who makes the most noise pscot Aug 2014 #64

I don't know if I agree that people follow someone simply because of the most noise. merrily Aug 2014 #67

Yes, that is pretty much what I said in my Reply 3. We were probably merrily Aug 2014 #7

I think one thing I see is ... democrats IMO are more intellectual and hence some of their RKP5637 Aug 2014 #10

Republican messaging does require effort. They do testing, etc. merrily Aug 2014 #13

Oh, I mean on the part of the receivers, not the creation of the republican messaging. I think RKP5637 Aug 2014 #16

Whether I benefited from them or not, I had quite a few years in school. merrily Aug 2014 #20

Similar here ... and also I've take a number of courses in RKP5637 Aug 2014 #24

I had to give a presentation on a specific topic to people in my field. merrily Aug 2014 #32

Agree!!! Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Aug 2014 #39

I think they do what they think benefits them most. merrily Aug 2014 #53

Change the name for Obamacare to Affordable Health Care and the numbers will be different. trumad Aug 2014 #6

That is the name of the act. Democrats, who invented the name "romneycare" were careful merrily Aug 2014 #11

I thought that was a big mistake. "Affordable Health Care Act" KoKo Aug 2014 #25

He did not cave. He said he liked it. No one forced him to say that. merrily Aug 2014 #34

That is a good point treestar Aug 2014 #44

Very true jamzrockz Aug 2014 #57

Oh boohoo...got to be scared it could lead to...socialism!! Rex Aug 2014 #15

There is little danger that the feds will take ownership of hospitals, clinics and other merrily Aug 2014 #18

Yeah they have trigger words, their base has the collective intelligence of an average dog. Rex Aug 2014 #19

We can say that the success of their messaging techniques is due to merrily Aug 2014 #21

Well they do have great propaganda masters. Rex Aug 2014 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #26

Did my dog whistle attract some attention!? Rex Aug 2014 #29

I hate it when this happens: In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #33

I always miss the action here. Never saw the post. merrily Aug 2014 #36

I sure as hell hope not. nt clarice Aug 2014 #51

The article also says that People who use it (60%) Like It KoKo Aug 2014 #28

Good point. People didn't even like the "doughnut" hole in Medicare, but no one merrily Aug 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Aug 2014 #41

Like just about every law YarnAddict Aug 2014 #30

This did not happen, they are blaming Obamacare with no basis treestar Aug 2014 #43

Um, no YarnAddict Aug 2014 #45

Your first guy just doesn't believe in insurance treestar Aug 2014 #46

Where did you get that idea? YarnAddict Aug 2014 #47

People may not want insurance, but they have no clue whether they need it or not until they NEED it. merrily Aug 2014 #52

Uh, yeah . . . YarnAddict Aug 2014 #55

You just moved the goalpost. merrily Aug 2014 #59

We all pay for medical services we will never need or ever need again. And we all bear the cost merrily Aug 2014 #61

This poll is BULLSHIT because if you asked these igorant people polled bigdarryl Aug 2014 #31

Very true. How you phrase poll questions greatly affects outcomes. merrily Aug 2014 #37

People who chose to stay with the plan they had treestar Aug 2014 #42

Staying with the employer plan isn't much a choice as a functional requirement of the law TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #58

Wel your employer's plan could be good or bad before the ACA treestar Aug 2014 #65

Pretty far afield from your own point and my response. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #66

One of the problems of the Obama administration is its unwillingness WI_DEM Aug 2014 #48

Please tell me you don't actually believe this. Arkana Aug 2014 #50

It's amazing what misinformation does. Arkana Aug 2014 #49

Speaking of messaging, Obama on TV now, speaking on the economy, immigration, etc., merrily Aug 2014 #54

I started disapproving it as soon as I tried to sign up Reter Aug 2014 #56

So you're going without insurance, I take it? Quantess Aug 2014 #60

The fine will be a lot cheaper than $307 a month Reter Aug 2014 #62

This years fine will be paid jamzrockz Aug 2014 #63