I am going to take my leave from DU for a time:

[Warren DeMontague]

47. It's a mess.

I had family- distant relatives, the ones without the restless explorer gene- who died in those camps. So I take Nazi comparisons seriously.

And when I hear "never again" I don't take it to mean a specific group of people- it's all people. I don't, actually, support what Israel is doing in Gaza right now. But I also don't think they should be expected to sit there and take regular rocket attacks as some form of "privilege checking", as someone tried to argue a few weeks ago.

I also think one salient fact which eludes discussions here at DU is that it is the closed border between Gaza and Egypt which is, in many ways, one of the big sources of Gaza's current difficulties.

I don't know what the answer is, it's a fucked up situation, but there are more players and factors than just Israel up and deciding one day to mess with Gaza. I do think Netanyahu has taken advantage of the situation to use the military to try to maintain what is ultimately a totally unmaintainable status quo.

As I've said elsewhere, I know some people on the Israeli left. They were optimistic in the 90s. Not so much, now.

It is depressing.