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89. You sound concerned. nt

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"We tortured some "folks"... "????? [View all] elehhhhna Aug 2014 OP

I'm just glad to hear a U.S. President admit that ... dawg Aug 2014 #1

okay you make a great point -thank you elehhhhna Aug 2014 #4

Yeah, none of this "extraordinary rendition" and "enhanced interrogation techniques." calimary Aug 2014 #40

Thankfully they shouldn't have to admity it now dickthegrouch Aug 2014 #65

It is not the 1st time he has said it was torture krawhitham Aug 2014 #44

Grateful for a small crumb. I'm not, I want the TRUTH in the starkest of terms sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #50

praises them as merely-overzealous defenders of the nation, gives them a free pass, and says MisterP Aug 2014 #66

before the flames begin elehhhhna Aug 2014 #2

you won't hear any sort of admission of error from Israel jberryhill Aug 2014 #6

Perhaps you need to do some research and learn the DonViejo Aug 2014 #9

because everybody tuning in to listen to the President speak magical thyme Aug 2014 #18

And that's another thing. He uses the word "folks" to refer to teabaggers and other vermin as well. calimary Aug 2014 #41

Folks is good considering none were convicted of any crimes. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #101

I'll take "an admission you'll never hear from a lot of leaders" for $200, Alex jberryhill Aug 2014 #3

No noone goes to jail newfie11 Aug 2014 #5

the architects got medals of FREEDOM from Bushhole elehhhhna Aug 2014 #7

Obama uses that word for "people" treestar Aug 2014 #8

It's a term commonly used by black folk in reference DonViejo Aug 2014 #11

Thank you!!! I find the OP tone deaf. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #22

of course you do. kath Aug 2014 #31

"It's a tic of his" handmade34 Aug 2014 #12

Yeah. Weird how everyone fixates on it, he says "folks" in every speaking TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #16

Some people forget he was raised by white Midwesterners, and then moved to Chicago. msanthrope Aug 2014 #20

We tortured children. We tortured innocent people to death. And why? Because we were afraid? rhett o rick Aug 2014 #10

How does the word "folks" minimize that? If anything, the use of the word "folks" indicates msanthrope Aug 2014 #21

What? I didn't say that the word "folks" minimized anything. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #55

Mistakes were made. The President gamely admitted it. Case closed. Now let's move on, folks. RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #47

I see you used the "sarcasm" thing to try to save yourself from rhett o rick Aug 2014 #56

Haha! Touch�! RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #62

I did think it was amazing that someone seemed to be looking out for Manny. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #69

"I welcome their hatred" RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #71

I don't know about Split Personality Manny. He keeps me confused. I think that's his rhett o rick Aug 2014 #76

There are valid reasons to criticize the President... TDale313 Aug 2014 #13

not as 'informal' as your term :) Sunlei Aug 2014 #14

Bothered me a little, too. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #15

Whenever I hear the term "folks", my skeptical defenses are activated. canoeist52 Aug 2014 #17

Downhomey? What an inartful word. The use of the word "folks" is a colloquialism. msanthrope Aug 2014 #19

he always uses the word folks, far more than I would (and that's cool) steve2470 Aug 2014 #35

He is an intelligent, very well-educated man BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #72

You sound concerned. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #89

Hypocrisy noted BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #92

Yes. No one's missing the deliberately casual tone here. DirkGently Aug 2014 #23

perfectly said. bbgrunt Aug 2014 #49

He said the word "tortured" and he said the word "folks" JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #24

Thank you! That was my point too. onecaliberal Aug 2014 #78

I saw that too and had the exact same reaction corkhead Aug 2014 #25

Are some of the "folks" who did the torturing going to prison? When? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #26

+1 BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #73

Was it these folks? Lint Head Aug 2014 #27

Let me get this straight... onecaliberal Aug 2014 #28

That seems a rather bald mischaracterization. DirkGently Aug 2014 #33

He was avoiding using the word people onecaliberal Aug 2014 #37

Right. Avoiding calling those tortured "people." DirkGently Aug 2014 #38

Yep. I thinks 'folks' gave the people we did those horrible things to their humanity back. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #36

^^^* This onecaliberal Aug 2014 #39

You make the point very well. You think that calling the victims "folks" gives them their rhett o rick Aug 2014 #68

POTUS was the one minimizing the crimes of the Bush administration tularetom Aug 2014 #43

He uses the word folks all the time. onecaliberal Aug 2014 #45

I don't care if he uses it in every sentence tularetom Aug 2014 #61

Uhm, in case you hadn't noticed onecaliberal Aug 2014 #77

If you look back a few threads you may notice that I call it complicit tularetom Aug 2014 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Aug 2014 #84

Here is the result BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #29

We've been torturing some folks for decades. progressoid Aug 2014 #30

It is getting very hard to justify to anyone BlueMTexpat Aug 2014 #32

President Obama made me proud at that press conference yesterday. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #34

We tortured some children, too. Octafish Aug 2014 #42

WE TORTURED. why give a fuck if he used the word folks. eShirl Aug 2014 #46

Because "folks" is a deliberate placement to mitigate the preceding word "torture." Is "why." WinkyDink Aug 2014 #60

Yes. Torturing "folks" is quaint. Torturing "people" is a war crime. RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #64

"We tortured some folks sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #48

Yes, we did jberryhill Aug 2014 #51

you know who else always says "folks" IcyPeas Aug 2014 #52

This is one of the outcomes of continuing to follow the policies of war criminals who were covered bobthedrummer Aug 2014 #53

And 79 years ago, we incinerated some folks in Japan RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #54

And the Iraq Occupation? Another slip up! Fool me once... elehhhhna Aug 2014 #96

Doh! RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #97

And "we" vaporized some folks with drone strikes... Psephos Aug 2014 #57

Question to you lawyer guys sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #58

Not a lawyer, but here's my take: HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #80

I have always viewed the use of "folks" (plural) to be condescension to the max. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #59

Not to confuse the issue, but... RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #63

No, Mr. President, "we" didn't torture some folks. You didn't torture some folks. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #67

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #86

Please make this an OP elehhhhna Aug 2014 #95

It's just some folks torturing some folks. Kinda folkseyish. L0oniX Aug 2014 #70

Obviously that was the intention. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #87

That particular use of the word "folks" grated on my nerves, as well, Blue_In_AK Aug 2014 #74

Okay, we tortured some folks. Thanks for fessing up. Now what the hell are you going to do about it? whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #75

He makes it sound like we waterboarded the town of Mayberry. B2G Aug 2014 #81

But..but...Andy and Barney did it becasue they were under a "lot of pressure". Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #82

And the folks that tortured some folks are patriots, lets not forget that /nt Dragonfli Aug 2014 #94

A real game changer polynomial Aug 2014 #83

BUT HE ADMITTED TO IT!! So that makes everything A OKAY now, haven't you read!??! riseabove Aug 2014 #85

not a-ok by a long shot, seriously nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #90

Straw man treestar Aug 2014 #98

Come on people, an American president ADMITTED THAT WE TORTURED...... steve2470 Aug 2014 #88

Knowing that would be the big story... kentuck Aug 2014 #91

Thanks, you get it. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #104

yep, come on, "folks" is the outrage du jour ? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, FOLKS ! nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #105

Some folks just don't get it. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #106

He always says that. I'd say "people", but he says folks. BIG FUCKING DEAL nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #107

I say "people", too. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #108

yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #109

he admitted he is covering for war crimes questionseverything Aug 2014 #111

Talk is talk. JEB Aug 2014 #93

Well, obviously some jerkheads need to be reminded that we are dealing with IrishAyes Aug 2014 #99

Of all the things to Jamaal510 Aug 2014 #100

Politicians should never use "torture" and "folks" in the same sentence. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #102

Amen! n/t BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #103

In my Southern culture it's a humanifying term. As in African American culture. nolabear Aug 2014 #110

I've always been struck by the fact.... steve2470 Aug 2014 #112

Oh, I get that. It's just a thing. This teapot rocks and rolls sometimes. nolabear Aug 2014 #113