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Yo_Mama

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36. Some of the data behind the article
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:59 AM
Apr 2012

CPI-U index:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t01.htm

CPI-W index (this is currently used to figure SS COLAs):
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t04.htm

C-CPI-U index (the chained index proposed for use for SS COLAs):
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t07.htm

The current annual changes:
CPI-U: 2.9
CPI-W: 3.1
C-CPI-U: 2.6

Obviously this will leave many SS recipients in dire straits over time. I heartily second Baker's opinions - this has been widely suggested and keeps popping up.

Because many social security recipients are living on a small income, more of their total incomes goes to basics such as food and medicine.

The current annual changes for food at home:
CPI-U: 4.5
CPI-W: 4.6
C-CPI-U: 4.4

If DU'rs are wondering why CPI-U and CPI-W are different, when they use the same methodology, they are constructed using a sample of consumers with different incomes. The consumers with lower incomes are used for CPI-W. When you take a sample of consumers with lower incomes, they spend more on things like food and energy, so the weighting for inflation components is different.

Weighting for food:
CPI-U: 15.256
CPI-W: 15.940
C-CPI-U: 15.084

I think what I have given here is proof enough that adjusting the incomes of persons living on 1K a month using C-CPI-U would basically be a cruel fraud.

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du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2012 #1
Here it comes kenny blankenship Apr 2012 #2
The Washington elite want to steal our earned Social Security benefits fasttense Apr 2012 #3
Chained CPI - MY ASS. anti-alec Apr 2012 #25
Want to steal it? They stole it decades ago. hughee99 Apr 2012 #39
That's it...in a nutshell. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #52
Anyone ProSense Apr 2012 #4
And Obama proposed the chained CPI in April of last year. woo me with science Apr 2012 #6
And ProSense Apr 2012 #7
That is flatly, utterly, brazenly untrue. woo me with science Apr 2012 #10
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This is what is happening to our party, folks. woo me with science Apr 2012 #12
Oh ProSense Apr 2012 #13
So if a proposal never gets enacted it doesn't count? eridani Apr 2012 #21
Woo me, you have wooed me: I despise every right-wing initiative, no matter its origin, indepat Apr 2012 #24
+1 nashville_brook Apr 2012 #35
I think by now, people are too smart to accept anything other than sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #46
Woo did NOT say Obama signed a proposal to cut Social Security Autumn Apr 2012 #14
That ProSense Apr 2012 #15
Not a fucking rumor, so it must have been one of Autumn Apr 2012 #17
Yeah, ProSense Apr 2012 #19
Has he made any public statements squashing that 'rumor' yet? sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #45
Can you show where George W. Bush signed a proposal to privatize Social Security? TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #56
. ProSense Apr 2012 #9
I think you are failing to convince people. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #28
No, just the same ones... Bobbie Jo Apr 2012 #30
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yep. it's a fact. nt inna May 2012 #62
I like idea of developing an "elderly" CPI. Hoyt Apr 2012 #5
By "elderly CPI" you mean one that more accurately reflects the need for higher COLA benefits. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #18
Not necessarily. For example, if we figured out a reasonable way to control/lower medical, housing, Hoyt Apr 2012 #20
Today's average SS benefit is $1230. And that average is right-skewed a bit, meaning most HiPointDem Apr 2012 #58
Except, folks on SS depend on the younger folks putting money into system. Hoyt Apr 2012 #60
That *is* the way it's supposed to work & is the way it's always worked. What's new HiPointDem Apr 2012 #61
Of course they do. It is a sustained assault, woo me with science Apr 2012 #8
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Occupy now, Occupy always. Zalatix Apr 2012 #32
'All the inside Washington types seem to agree' MineralMan Apr 2012 #16
It is exactly the same tactic as "Some people say..." bullshit. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #37
Precisely the same. MineralMan Apr 2012 #38
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What we need is more bi-partisanship! I'm sure we'll see a lot of that after the election. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #26
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to DU readers: unless you are the upperclass... you are screwed fascisthunter Apr 2012 #29
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reflexively recc'ing without reading article... KG Apr 2012 #33
Some of the data behind the article Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #36
Good post, thank you. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #55
Am I correct in thinking that some of the most vital items to life (food) are not included in the jwirr Apr 2012 #43
"consensus" librechik Apr 2012 #47
For those who question Obama's intent Oilwellian Apr 2012 #49
Unhook and inflate away. cottonseed Apr 2012 #51
called it, baby HiPointDem Dec 2012 #63
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