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141. I never once condoned the killing in Gaza

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:54 AM

Aug 2014

But what is sickening is trying to make it out that what is happening in Gaza is comparable to what happened in Warsaw.

Its interesting. Many of those defending Hamas make the point that Hamas, despite their best efforts, hasn't killed women and children in Israel. Apparently proportionality counts only in that regard, not in regard to comparisons to Warsaw, the Holocaust (or Hiroshima).

And to put the 32,000 per square mile density of Gaza in perspective: the density in the Warsaw Ghetto (remember, that's what this thread is about: comparing Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto) was over 300,000 per square mile. (For further perspective, 32,000 per square mile is less than half the density of Manhattan)

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Images of Gaza Devastation - a picture can destroy a thousand lies [View all] Fred Sanders Aug 2014 OP

And people are annoyed that I am condemning this collective punishment malaise Aug 2014 #1

Right there with you gaspee Aug 2014 #14

I've seen polls that indicate 80% of US citizens chervilant Aug 2014 #131

I believe that number has gone down quite a bit. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #132

Neither do I consent madokie Aug 2014 #68

They can until we rise up and say no malaise Aug 2014 #69

Its time for the rising to begin madokie Aug 2014 #71

Let's not forget they had the Support of the UN, USA and several other Heather MC Aug 2014 #151

Part of the reason I am madokie Aug 2014 #153

Thank you malaise and Fred S for your continuing to speak out. 7wo7rees Aug 2014 #73

Ethnic cleansing and stealing more land malaise Aug 2014 #75

it is about gas reserves and a very large amount of money. nt 7wo7rees Aug 2014 #76

Don't leave out the tourist industry either malaise Aug 2014 #77

Yeah, but.... ReRe Aug 2014 #109

A lot of DUers yes. Democrats in Congress no. That $225 million military totodeinhere Aug 2014 #159

This is what the husband and I have been saying since this whole thing started Bettie Aug 2014 #148

Silence is consent G_j Aug 2014 #85

NO MORE "looking forward." blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #108

Do Not Trust Israel billhicks76 Aug 2014 #115

I do not consent either and I could not care less about those who are 'annoyed'. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #126

As long as Israel continues to get unflinching American support there will be totodeinhere Aug 2014 #160

No, I don't see a huge movement happening HERE, although there is a large sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #163

My point was that as long as our country continues its full fledged support totodeinhere Aug 2014 #164

I have despised them all my life. It is now time ballyhoo Aug 2014 #144

You won't see this on the MSM. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #2

Of course not, took me all of 5 minutes to find, cut and publish with commentary..hard work for some Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #8

Instead of these pictures, you get CNN talking heads discussing how the truedelphi Aug 2014 #9

CNN makes my head hurt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #33

CNN is embedded with the Israeli government, they barely pretend anymore...enemies of truth Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #36

Oh, he's such a tool. I can't stand to watch him. nt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #63

He's afraid of dead air.... like a dial tone, never leaving more than a 1/4 second of space between DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #102

What, no gas mask? notadmblnd Aug 2014 #87

Yes. ReRe Aug 2014 #113

I have on occasion met Canadian journalists covering various truedelphi Aug 2014 #42

When I was in school laundry_queen Aug 2014 #62

I had a teacher like that in high school PatSeg Aug 2014 #93

At the University of Texas I had an American professor who was an expert on Iran. He had Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #121

Fascinating story, thanks. laundry_queen Aug 2014 #123

Sounds like a great teacher Bettie Aug 2014 #150

Cherish your objective TV journalism. It is a thing of the past in the USA. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #66

That is certainly true enough. And if Powers that Be have their way, the internet truedelphi Aug 2014 #91

I fear the same may come to pass. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #124

Palestinian parody of ISIS FrodosPet Aug 2014 #70

France24 is pretty good if you can get it. I watch it on Nowhere TV via Purveyor Aug 2014 #78

Fox Lite (er, CNN) ReRe Aug 2014 #111

Well let's hope they don't use the cement for tunnels instead of rebuilding Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #3

Let's hope Israel uses the free ammo from America and turns itinto plowshares. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #5

Sure. I bet the Israelis will be the first to agree Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #6

Your post is the perfect example of cold-heartedness. BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #7

Uh, no Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #11

Do you see a blank mirror? Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #12

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #17

Where are you sitting? atreides1 Aug 2014 #21

Way to jump in there for the save Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #25

Hamas IS the "Palestinian" people! Indydem Aug 2014 #65

Hold it! Gonna need an explanation on the scare quotes, scooter. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #74

did you feel the same when GWB was president? frylock Aug 2014 #81

Exactly. Blue_In_AK Aug 2014 #90

I don't understand that... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #110

Hamas is the Palestinian people? sulphurdunn Aug 2014 #162

"Terror tunnels" is a propaganda term straight out of the Frank Luntz playbook. arcane1 Aug 2014 #35

Propaganda masters of the world have flocked to Israel for well paid propaganda jobs. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #38

Luntz taught them how to spread propaganda through media and social media. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #51

I do not believe gaspee Aug 2014 #48

see also "rape rooms" frylock Aug 2014 #82

As simple as that statement is, it IS true. SoCalDem Aug 2014 #19

You have some really twisted morals n/t cpwm17 Aug 2014 #20

How do you figure? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #24

You're blaming the victim. cpwm17 Aug 2014 #28

You don't understand. louis-t Aug 2014 #27

Well, we disagree. That's fine. Time will tell Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #31

They've done it before. louis-t Aug 2014 #34

time IS telling frylock Aug 2014 #83

... sibelian Aug 2014 #137

No one can look at these pictures and claim that Israel is trying to avoid civilian casualties Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #4

It is proof of nothing if no one wants to look at them...and the American media does not. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #10

It is proof, but you are correct that many in the media work to conceal the proof Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #16

And the UN being the sock puppet of the US and the western powers will not do much either - n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #79

How do you destroy or damage 30,000 residences and kill fewer than 2000 people? onenote Aug 2014 #80

Destroying 30,000 residences is an attack on the civilian population Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #86

You still haven't explained how its possible to destroy that many residences without a significantly onenote Aug 2014 #89

Look at any natural disaster and you will see the same thing Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #92

Since some here like to compare Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto onenote Aug 2014 #95

So Israel is better than the Nazis Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #97

But When Your Attack Line, Sir, Is 'Israel Is Just Like The Nazis', It Matters.... The Magistrate Aug 2014 #128

Since when was that my attack line? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #129

The magistrate is putting words in your comment and then attacking the words....poor sporting. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #135

Maybe not your attack line. The attack line of the OP you seem to be defending. onenote Aug 2014 #142

I do not see those words in the OP either Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #147

So you won't get outraged if other people say Hamas is like the Nazis onenote Aug 2014 #155

If you think I am a fan of Hamas you are sorely mistaken Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #158

oh please!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2014 #139

How one-sided. Where are the pictures of the death and destruction in Israel? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #13

ER... ReRe Aug 2014 #116

And a new generation of hatred comes rolling out of the assembly line aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #15

Yesterday, I think it was on the BBC, I saw a 15-year-old Gaza kid. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #18

This. ^^^^ calimary Aug 2014 #37

lather, rinse, repeat frylock Aug 2014 #84

I guess the plan is to kill off every last Hamas supporter. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #22

That will never be possible. It will only beget more sympathizers on their side. calimary Aug 2014 #32

Sadly that's it in a nutshell malaise Aug 2014 #67

It might end with Muslim countries uniting, then an all-out nilesobek Aug 2014 #104

Very powerful images 4now Aug 2014 #23

Many more pictures here seveneyes Aug 2014 #26

Anything less than 2 years old, otherwise......... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #30

It's not a war. It's a slaughter. pa28 Aug 2014 #29

A pure unadulterated terror campaign. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #39

Shock and Awe Israeli style panader0 Aug 2014 #49

Why didn't they just drop an atomic bobm and be done with it. Pictures remined me of the Fla Dem Aug 2014 #40

Have you actually ever seen pictures of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? onenote Aug 2014 #127

I was comparing visually, pictures I HAVE SEEN, of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with Gaza. Fla Dem Aug 2014 #133

Really. The pictures of Gaza you have seen include the one in your post? onenote Aug 2014 #143

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #41

Israelis terrorizing Palestinians. No other possible explanation. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #43

The first one looks like an atomic bomb went off. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #44

FYI, the first picture is neither Gaza nor recent... brachism Aug 2014 #45

The first photo is fake. geomon666 Aug 2014 #46

Ooh, maybe a deliberate fake, for irony's sake. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #47

My error actually, but a fortuitous error, because it all looks the same....... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #57

No they're not. joshcryer Aug 2014 #64

There is nothing "surgical" about this. This is SLAUGHTER! Viva_Daddy Aug 2014 #50

Damn them. All are terrible. That last breaks my heart AllyCat Aug 2014 #52

An absolute outrage! easychoice Aug 2014 #53

well, noone is worrying about mitchtv Aug 2014 #54

Can someone explain me how this dead_head Aug 2014 #55

Horrifying Warpy Aug 2014 #56

Agree. n/t Paper Roses Aug 2014 #60

Those who cannot remember the past. alphafemale Aug 2014 #58

Sadly, the OP doesn't remember the past. He distorts it. onenote Aug 2014 #99

Being of Jewish heritage, this sickens me to no end. Brewinblue Aug 2014 #59

The propaganda in Israel and America is just plain scary, it brings back memories of another time. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #61

Something else to think about.. busterbrown Aug 2014 #72

And a picture can be used to spread a lie. onenote Aug 2014 #88

Once again the horror of the Warsaw Ghetto is COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #98

One poster in particular seems to be spearheading this comparison oberliner Aug 2014 #125

with your 340 square miles obfuscation heaven05 Aug 2014 #136

First off.... blackspade Aug 2014 #140

I never once condoned the killing in Gaza onenote Aug 2014 #141

Apologizing for it is condoning it blackspade Aug 2014 #146

I didn't condone it. I didn't justify it. And thank you for conceding my point onenote Aug 2014 #149

They can't be compared... blackspade Aug 2014 #152

Correct. So I hope to see you joining me in condemning those making such comparisons onenote Aug 2014 #156

Yep, I'll just wait on the comparisons until the IDF killes the fuck..... blackspade Aug 2014 #157

Hatred. kentuck Aug 2014 #96

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #100

It's essentially the Dahiya Doctrine killbotfactory Aug 2014 #101

The truth about this terrorist regime cannot be hidden. mwrguy Aug 2014 #103

What really sickens me is that this is all being done over religion. Motherfu*king religion. Flatulo Aug 2014 #105

Collective Punishment.....There's no excuse for this.....none.! KoKo Aug 2014 #106

We're paying for this with our US Tax Dollars, yes?! Because of our fetish with End Times/Armageddon blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #107

You know what I'd like to see dovetailed with this destruction? MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #112

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #114

I see a great deal of passion concerning this issue, but no one is laughing. Dragonfli Aug 2014 #118

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #117

"They hate Jews more than the lives of their children"...your solution is death to them all...sad. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #119

"they hate Jews more than they love their own lives. They are happy if their child dies" Dragonfli Aug 2014 #120

Dehumanization first, genocide later, it is a tried and true method for justification for killing. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #122

US just gave Israel 225 million. Just like Iraq....in our name. madfloridian Aug 2014 #130

it never ends G_j Aug 2014 #138

this is state sanctioned murder heaven05 Aug 2014 #134

Feel free to use the ones from my post as well - TBF Aug 2014 #145

How did you find these pictures? Just wondering. chrisa Aug 2014 #154

It is interesting watching Israel behave like America when we decide to use our military Rex Aug 2014 #161