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Bjorn Against

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147. I do not see those words in the OP either

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:24 AM

Aug 2014

If you want my opinion on Nazi comparisions however I will give it to you.

I do not believe Israel is as bad as Nazi Germany was, but they are engaging in mass murder. While I will not say that Israel is just like the Nazis myself I am not going to get outraged when other people say it because Israel engaged in mass murder, and once a nation engages in the mass slaughter of innocent civilians I am not going to feel sorry for them when they are called names. I find the mass slaughter of civilians far more reprehensible than I find it when people call mass murderers Nazis.

Once again however I recognize the differences between Israel and Nazi Germany myself and I don't personally use that comparision, I simply refuse to pretend that comparing a repressive government to Nazis is somehow worse than killing civilians in mass numbers as Israel is currently doing.

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Images of Gaza Devastation - a picture can destroy a thousand lies [View all] Fred Sanders Aug 2014 OP

And people are annoyed that I am condemning this collective punishment malaise Aug 2014 #1

Right there with you gaspee Aug 2014 #14

I've seen polls that indicate 80% of US citizens chervilant Aug 2014 #131

I believe that number has gone down quite a bit. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #132

Neither do I consent madokie Aug 2014 #68

They can until we rise up and say no malaise Aug 2014 #69

Its time for the rising to begin madokie Aug 2014 #71

Let's not forget they had the Support of the UN, USA and several other Heather MC Aug 2014 #151

Part of the reason I am madokie Aug 2014 #153

Thank you malaise and Fred S for your continuing to speak out. 7wo7rees Aug 2014 #73

Ethnic cleansing and stealing more land malaise Aug 2014 #75

it is about gas reserves and a very large amount of money. nt 7wo7rees Aug 2014 #76

Don't leave out the tourist industry either malaise Aug 2014 #77

Yeah, but.... ReRe Aug 2014 #109

A lot of DUers yes. Democrats in Congress no. That $225 million military totodeinhere Aug 2014 #159

This is what the husband and I have been saying since this whole thing started Bettie Aug 2014 #148

Silence is consent G_j Aug 2014 #85

NO MORE "looking forward." blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #108

Do Not Trust Israel billhicks76 Aug 2014 #115

I do not consent either and I could not care less about those who are 'annoyed'. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #126

As long as Israel continues to get unflinching American support there will be totodeinhere Aug 2014 #160

No, I don't see a huge movement happening HERE, although there is a large sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #163

My point was that as long as our country continues its full fledged support totodeinhere Aug 2014 #164

I have despised them all my life. It is now time ballyhoo Aug 2014 #144

You won't see this on the MSM. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #2

Of course not, took me all of 5 minutes to find, cut and publish with commentary..hard work for some Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #8

Instead of these pictures, you get CNN talking heads discussing how the truedelphi Aug 2014 #9

CNN makes my head hurt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #33

CNN is embedded with the Israeli government, they barely pretend anymore...enemies of truth Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #36

Oh, he's such a tool. I can't stand to watch him. nt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #63

He's afraid of dead air.... like a dial tone, never leaving more than a 1/4 second of space between DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #102

What, no gas mask? notadmblnd Aug 2014 #87

Yes. ReRe Aug 2014 #113

I have on occasion met Canadian journalists covering various truedelphi Aug 2014 #42

When I was in school laundry_queen Aug 2014 #62

I had a teacher like that in high school PatSeg Aug 2014 #93

At the University of Texas I had an American professor who was an expert on Iran. He had Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #121

Fascinating story, thanks. laundry_queen Aug 2014 #123

Sounds like a great teacher Bettie Aug 2014 #150

Cherish your objective TV journalism. It is a thing of the past in the USA. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #66

That is certainly true enough. And if Powers that Be have their way, the internet truedelphi Aug 2014 #91

I fear the same may come to pass. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #124

Palestinian parody of ISIS FrodosPet Aug 2014 #70

France24 is pretty good if you can get it. I watch it on Nowhere TV via Purveyor Aug 2014 #78

Fox Lite (er, CNN) ReRe Aug 2014 #111

Well let's hope they don't use the cement for tunnels instead of rebuilding Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #3

Let's hope Israel uses the free ammo from America and turns itinto plowshares. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #5

Sure. I bet the Israelis will be the first to agree Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #6

Your post is the perfect example of cold-heartedness. BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #7

Uh, no Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #11

Do you see a blank mirror? Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #12

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #17

Where are you sitting? atreides1 Aug 2014 #21

Way to jump in there for the save Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #25

Hamas IS the "Palestinian" people! Indydem Aug 2014 #65

Hold it! Gonna need an explanation on the scare quotes, scooter. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #74

did you feel the same when GWB was president? frylock Aug 2014 #81

Exactly. Blue_In_AK Aug 2014 #90

I don't understand that... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #110

Hamas is the Palestinian people? sulphurdunn Aug 2014 #162

"Terror tunnels" is a propaganda term straight out of the Frank Luntz playbook. arcane1 Aug 2014 #35

Propaganda masters of the world have flocked to Israel for well paid propaganda jobs. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #38

Luntz taught them how to spread propaganda through media and social media. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #51

I do not believe gaspee Aug 2014 #48

see also "rape rooms" frylock Aug 2014 #82

As simple as that statement is, it IS true. SoCalDem Aug 2014 #19

You have some really twisted morals n/t cpwm17 Aug 2014 #20

How do you figure? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #24

You're blaming the victim. cpwm17 Aug 2014 #28

You don't understand. louis-t Aug 2014 #27

Well, we disagree. That's fine. Time will tell Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #31

They've done it before. louis-t Aug 2014 #34

time IS telling frylock Aug 2014 #83

... sibelian Aug 2014 #137

No one can look at these pictures and claim that Israel is trying to avoid civilian casualties Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #4

It is proof of nothing if no one wants to look at them...and the American media does not. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #10

It is proof, but you are correct that many in the media work to conceal the proof Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #16

And the UN being the sock puppet of the US and the western powers will not do much either - n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #79

How do you destroy or damage 30,000 residences and kill fewer than 2000 people? onenote Aug 2014 #80

Destroying 30,000 residences is an attack on the civilian population Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #86

You still haven't explained how its possible to destroy that many residences without a significantly onenote Aug 2014 #89

Look at any natural disaster and you will see the same thing Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #92

Since some here like to compare Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto onenote Aug 2014 #95

So Israel is better than the Nazis Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #97

But When Your Attack Line, Sir, Is 'Israel Is Just Like The Nazis', It Matters.... The Magistrate Aug 2014 #128

Since when was that my attack line? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #129

The magistrate is putting words in your comment and then attacking the words....poor sporting. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #135

Maybe not your attack line. The attack line of the OP you seem to be defending. onenote Aug 2014 #142

I do not see those words in the OP either Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #147

So you won't get outraged if other people say Hamas is like the Nazis onenote Aug 2014 #155

If you think I am a fan of Hamas you are sorely mistaken Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #158

oh please!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2014 #139

How one-sided. Where are the pictures of the death and destruction in Israel? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #13

ER... ReRe Aug 2014 #116

And a new generation of hatred comes rolling out of the assembly line aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #15

Yesterday, I think it was on the BBC, I saw a 15-year-old Gaza kid. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #18

This. ^^^^ calimary Aug 2014 #37

lather, rinse, repeat frylock Aug 2014 #84

I guess the plan is to kill off every last Hamas supporter. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #22

That will never be possible. It will only beget more sympathizers on their side. calimary Aug 2014 #32

Sadly that's it in a nutshell malaise Aug 2014 #67

It might end with Muslim countries uniting, then an all-out nilesobek Aug 2014 #104

Very powerful images 4now Aug 2014 #23

Many more pictures here seveneyes Aug 2014 #26

Anything less than 2 years old, otherwise......... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #30

It's not a war. It's a slaughter. pa28 Aug 2014 #29

A pure unadulterated terror campaign. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #39

Shock and Awe Israeli style panader0 Aug 2014 #49

Why didn't they just drop an atomic bobm and be done with it. Pictures remined me of the Fla Dem Aug 2014 #40

Have you actually ever seen pictures of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? onenote Aug 2014 #127

I was comparing visually, pictures I HAVE SEEN, of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with Gaza. Fla Dem Aug 2014 #133

Really. The pictures of Gaza you have seen include the one in your post? onenote Aug 2014 #143

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #41

Israelis terrorizing Palestinians. No other possible explanation. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #43

The first one looks like an atomic bomb went off. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #44

FYI, the first picture is neither Gaza nor recent... brachism Aug 2014 #45

The first photo is fake. geomon666 Aug 2014 #46

Ooh, maybe a deliberate fake, for irony's sake. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #47

My error actually, but a fortuitous error, because it all looks the same....... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #57

No they're not. joshcryer Aug 2014 #64

There is nothing "surgical" about this. This is SLAUGHTER! Viva_Daddy Aug 2014 #50

Damn them. All are terrible. That last breaks my heart AllyCat Aug 2014 #52

An absolute outrage! easychoice Aug 2014 #53

well, noone is worrying about mitchtv Aug 2014 #54

Can someone explain me how this dead_head Aug 2014 #55

Horrifying Warpy Aug 2014 #56

Agree. n/t Paper Roses Aug 2014 #60

Those who cannot remember the past. alphafemale Aug 2014 #58

Sadly, the OP doesn't remember the past. He distorts it. onenote Aug 2014 #99

Being of Jewish heritage, this sickens me to no end. Brewinblue Aug 2014 #59

The propaganda in Israel and America is just plain scary, it brings back memories of another time. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #61

Something else to think about.. busterbrown Aug 2014 #72

And a picture can be used to spread a lie. onenote Aug 2014 #88

Once again the horror of the Warsaw Ghetto is COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #98

One poster in particular seems to be spearheading this comparison oberliner Aug 2014 #125

with your 340 square miles obfuscation heaven05 Aug 2014 #136

First off.... blackspade Aug 2014 #140

I never once condoned the killing in Gaza onenote Aug 2014 #141

Apologizing for it is condoning it blackspade Aug 2014 #146

I didn't condone it. I didn't justify it. And thank you for conceding my point onenote Aug 2014 #149

They can't be compared... blackspade Aug 2014 #152

Correct. So I hope to see you joining me in condemning those making such comparisons onenote Aug 2014 #156

Yep, I'll just wait on the comparisons until the IDF killes the fuck..... blackspade Aug 2014 #157

Hatred. kentuck Aug 2014 #96

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #100

It's essentially the Dahiya Doctrine killbotfactory Aug 2014 #101

The truth about this terrorist regime cannot be hidden. mwrguy Aug 2014 #103

What really sickens me is that this is all being done over religion. Motherfu*king religion. Flatulo Aug 2014 #105

Collective Punishment.....There's no excuse for this.....none.! KoKo Aug 2014 #106

We're paying for this with our US Tax Dollars, yes?! Because of our fetish with End Times/Armageddon blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #107

You know what I'd like to see dovetailed with this destruction? MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #112

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #114

I see a great deal of passion concerning this issue, but no one is laughing. Dragonfli Aug 2014 #118

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #117

"They hate Jews more than the lives of their children"...your solution is death to them all...sad. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #119

"they hate Jews more than they love their own lives. They are happy if their child dies" Dragonfli Aug 2014 #120

Dehumanization first, genocide later, it is a tried and true method for justification for killing. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #122

US just gave Israel 225 million. Just like Iraq....in our name. madfloridian Aug 2014 #130

it never ends G_j Aug 2014 #138

this is state sanctioned murder heaven05 Aug 2014 #134

Feel free to use the ones from my post as well - TBF Aug 2014 #145

How did you find these pictures? Just wondering. chrisa Aug 2014 #154

It is interesting watching Israel behave like America when we decide to use our military Rex Aug 2014 #161