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canoeist52

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36. You can't change the hard-liners, but the libertarian bystanders - I'm workin' on 'em!

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 05:58 PM

Aug 2014

My conservative friends on FB want :

Healthy food with no pesticides

Clean air and water

Corruption out of government

Actually support the Market Basket boycott!

Want us out of wars and meddling with other countries' government

to support local business and boycott Walmart

I'm slowly bring some of them around to understanding their best interests. Some of the are too far gone to understand who's screwing them.

Can anyone else add to these?

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So, I heard Bernie Sanders on the radio talking about trying to work with the Tea Party base. [View all] Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 OP

The Tea Party is funded by the Koch brothers... FarPoint Aug 2014 #1

Plus a million. Exactly. nt MADem Aug 2014 #6

"Is there any way to make common ground with these people or not?" ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #2

There is more liberal cross-over issues with libertarians than with conservatives. morningfog Aug 2014 #3

Maybe we have a definitional problem here. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #11

Not really. The libertarian economic philosophy, which is at the heart of everything, pnwmom Aug 2014 #18

I don't disagree with that. However, if we did not live in a duopoly, it would morningfog Aug 2014 #28

That's true only if you don't believe that the economics is THE fundamental issue. pnwmom Aug 2014 #42

Uhhh!!!! OHHHHH!!!! MADem Aug 2014 #4

Depends on what you mean by "Tea Party". winter is coming Aug 2014 #5

isn't that what Nader is calling for as well? nt m-lekktor Aug 2014 #7

I think so. I think he's on tour flogging a new book. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #9

Maybe, if goals remain general - like being against corp welfare. Avalux Aug 2014 #8

Nah, not the Tea Party. They love crony capitalism. JaneyVee Aug 2014 #10

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Do they not? Tell me, what do you know about it, really. Dragonfli Aug 2014 #16

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Co-opted? How about seeded and formed with Koch money and Dick Armey - pure astroturf NRaleighLiberal Aug 2014 #23

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Ron Paul is a granny starver too you know. /nt Dragonfli Aug 2014 #26

That's just it, in my experience part of the tea party motto is Dragonfli Aug 2014 #25

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??? Dragonfli Aug 2014 #29

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I think they may misunderstand what "co-opted" means. herding cats Aug 2014 #32

That might explain it. /nt Dragonfli Aug 2014 #33

I just figured out who they are. herding cats Aug 2014 #34

I have never been distracted by the team BS, and I don't understand the Homeland security post Dragonfli Aug 2014 #30

when you mercuryblues Aug 2014 #12

That should rally DU to his Presidential Campaign... brooklynite Aug 2014 #13

I don't think Bernie would care about a predominantly center to right site like DU TransitJohn Aug 2014 #17

I don't think they're smart enough. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #15

I think so Puzzledtraveller Aug 2014 #19

I totally agree Enrique Aug 2014 #20

No, because RACISM! graegoyle Aug 2014 #22

My VA and FL relatives are tea party fans abelenkpe Aug 2014 #35

You can't change the hard-liners, but the libertarian bystanders - I'm workin' on 'em! canoeist52 Aug 2014 #36

Every libertarian I know does not want any clean air, clean water or clean food laws. AlinPA Aug 2014 #44

I think he's doomed to disappointment for the most part. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #37

The way to reach out is through the churches - TBF Aug 2014 #38

No. old guy Aug 2014 #39

No old guy Aug 2014 #40

I think individuals in the Tea Party possibly could be open to working together. Inkfreak Aug 2014 #41

Bullshit.Sanders must have been drunk.Working with those stupid, ignorant, xenophobic, racist slobs? AlinPA Aug 2014 #43

Those are the ones you can't change. But you can chnges the minds of those who follow them canoeist52 Aug 2014 #45

I agree that, yes, they blame it on the wrong people. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #46

This is an important discussion. Laelth Aug 2014 #47

Excellent post. Two third-rails on which I will generally not comment, are religion and guns. canoeist52 Aug 2014 #48

Thanks for the kind words. Laelth Aug 2014 #50

Sanders gets plenty of farmers to vote for him shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #49

Frankly, no. Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #51

When I hear TP, I see Ted Cruz oozimg up from a rotten volcano, spewing hate and Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #52

I try to see Republican voters as my fellow victims, not as the enamy. Orsino Aug 2014 #53