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etherealtruth

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81. There is no cure

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 07:33 PM

Aug 2014

Hydration, electrolyte replacement, transfusions have cut the death rate by approximately 1/3 ... these supportive treatments have effectively cut the death rate.

I do understand what you are saying ... 'try anything" ... what can it hurt .... the issue I have is that some of these treatments (a poster upthread cites "snake venom" as a purported treatment for hemorrhagic fevers (they cite it with disgust/ not agreement) .... if one is talking about healing crystals or slaughtering a goat to the gods ... they really can't hurt ... some of these treatments have a very real potential to cause further harm.

The other issue I have is that folk may fear conventional supportive treatments and attempt "alternative" or homeopathic (acknowledging they are NOT the same thing) .... up to a point where it is too late for any hope.

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Homeopaths vs. Ebola virus hemorrhagic fever [View all] SidDithers Aug 2014 OP

strawman = logical fallacy KurtNYC Aug 2014 #1

What's the strawman? THEY claim they can cure Ebola. DetlefK Aug 2014 #2

You are kidding, right.....? etherealtruth Aug 2014 #7

As soon as someone goes the 'strawman' route, I tune them out for using it like a slur. freshwest Aug 2014 #43

As usual ;-) etherealtruth Aug 2014 #45

What strawman? zappaman Aug 2014 #11

You're asking a homeopath for an explanation of how something works rather than Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #15

Defending homeopathy using accusations of logic fail? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #65

you aren't responding to anybody-- snooper2 Aug 2014 #90

K+R..... infectious disease is nothing to trifle with, as anyone who knows someone who is DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #3

These idiots (homepathic "practioners") and their defenders .... etherealtruth Aug 2014 #4

But but but but... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #5

And PasadenaTrudy Aug 2014 #27

Crimson and clover... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #29

And Medicines Have Chemicals In Them!!! Wolf Frankula Aug 2014 #84

Remember "Head On?" Archae Aug 2014 #6

really dsc Aug 2014 #87

The best commercials, though... SidDithers Aug 2014 #89

Viral Hemorrhagic fever is not so uncommon. Rex Aug 2014 #8

Not if someone has access to a hospital Warpy Aug 2014 #52

True, I know there is speculation that they brought back the infected Rex Aug 2014 #85

"Essential Oils For The Win!" Brickbat Aug 2014 #9

Thanks for posting. pintobean Aug 2014 #10

"The super tiny penetration made me laugh." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #17

little baby jackhammers all working in unison, go team, on the other hand, there are some drug trial DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #28

I may have seen your work. pintobean Aug 2014 #39

During the super tiny penetration Treant Aug 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Eugenian Aug 2014 #20

Whoa that's quite a claim! "kill viral infections in 12-48 hours". Avalux Aug 2014 #21

I have a friend who sells essential oils... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #30

To a point Treant Aug 2014 #38

You are correct... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #42

Essential oils can be toxic in sufficient dose and concentration Drahthaardogs Aug 2014 #44

Of course they can... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #55

Dr Bronner's soap will kill the shit out of ants in your kitchen Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #46

And orange oil works wonders for cleaning bongs... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #53

With those sorts of margins Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #63

Heh... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #75

I am waiting for someone to suggest... 3catwoman3 Aug 2014 #12

Why aren't the faithful praying it away? nt valerief Aug 2014 #13

I was thinking how very fucking odd to link scorn for homeopathy to Ebola - then I read this - djean111 Aug 2014 #14

Are you posting this as an example of how fucking ridiculous naturalnews is?...nt SidDithers Aug 2014 #18

Are you saying that what they reported is not true? djean111 Aug 2014 #24

Holy fuck. You really are using naturalnews as if it were a legitimate source... SidDithers Aug 2014 #26

Okay, here is something from the tekmira webaite. djean111 Aug 2014 #32

How DARE a drug company try to find a drug to treat a disease!!! The SHAME, the SHAME!!! CAG Aug 2014 #48

That is not what I was saying, and you know it. What bothers me is that djean111 Aug 2014 #50

This may help etherealtruth Aug 2014 #51

If NaturalNews reported it Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #31

Confused about natural news? zappaman Aug 2014 #36

I wouldn't send a Chiropractor to an ebola clinic Ruby the Liberal Aug 2014 #16

If you read at the links there are "homeopathic practioners" etherealtruth Aug 2014 #19

Snake venom is the worst idea for treating Ebola ever! And the freshwest Aug 2014 #47

Homeopathy is 100% bullshit. Iggo Aug 2014 #22

Actual Bull poo would probably cure more things than an average homeopath "cure" CAG Aug 2014 #49

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I see you are studying at the Library again. William769 Aug 2014 #56

"Studying"??? greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #57

Good point. William769 Aug 2014 #59

"Mental masturbation" is the term I use. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #76

I suppose she gets pleasure out of it. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #78

One would hope that one would not persist for so long in something that was not giving pleasure. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #79

Or has a thing for rejection. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2014 #80

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even if there is no real remedy in them? NRaleighLiberal Aug 2014 #60

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #64

... William769 Aug 2014 #61

Perhaps you should read downthread... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #62

Due to the lack of any approved protocols, Ebola is basically treated with the "shotgun method" BlueEye Aug 2014 #23

Any good Homeopathic practitioner knows RoccoR5955 Aug 2014 #25

Any homeopathic practitioner Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2014 #33

Homeopathy has to be separated out because there is essentially no active NRaleighLiberal Aug 2014 #34

Nobody is arguing that many plants contain agents COLGATE4 Aug 2014 #35

It works in conjunction with "modern medical practices"? arcane1 Aug 2014 #37

'Good homeopathic practitioner'? GoneOffShore Aug 2014 #41

So, I guess that those of you who do not think that alternative medicine works RoccoR5955 Aug 2014 #66

There's a big big difference between "natural" and homeopathic. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #73

Do they have degrees? NuclearDem Aug 2014 #77

Currently nothing works for Ebola. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #67

The mortality rate with the current outbreak etherealtruth Aug 2014 #68

There is still no known effective treatment. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #69

There is no cure etherealtruth Aug 2014 #81

Hmmm... Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #70

I can fucking guarantee you that "fuck it, anything goes" at Emory doesn't include homeopathy... SidDithers Aug 2014 #71

Touch� etherealtruth Aug 2014 #72

It however does include a "serum" that had only one dose, or was it two, Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #74

The serum was probably prepared from blood of a recovered person. Avalux Aug 2014 #82

Thread reported OriginalGeek Aug 2014 #83

This thread needs a dose of Mitchell and Webb progressoid Aug 2014 #86

Interview w/ Dr. Luc Montagnier, Nobel Laureate Surya Gayatri Aug 2014 #88