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In reply to the discussion: Charles P Pierce- The President's worst moment [View all]cheapdate
(3,811 posts)The substance of my argument was that there was a choice between pursuing criminal prosecutions or pursuing health care reform, staving off complete economic collapse, and doing the other things that the times demanded.
It was a choice because pursuing criminal prosecutions would have inevitably been an all-consuming plunge into the most bitter and divisive showdown imaginable -- at a time when the country was on the precipice of falling into a depression equal to or greater than the Great Depression AND fighting two full-scale overseas wars.
That was the substance of my argument. You don't seem to have any answer or rebuttal.
Yes, I AM a fucking pragmatist. You think you can just show a tragic picture and that's the end of it. As if there are no choices or tradeoffs in the world. Who are the guards in your photo? Are they among the twelve guards were charged and convicted for prisoner abuses? Yes, that photo is disgusting. The kidnapping, torture, and murder carried out by the United States was disgusting and will be a stain on the country for perhaps all time.
I could show a picture of someone suffering or dying in the United States from a lack of health care. Or a family in America living in a fucking tent. A shocking photo is a piece of the pie but it's not always the whole picture.
Ferdinand I, the Holy Roman Emperor in the 16th century claimed, "Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus", which can be translated as, 'Let justice be done, though the world perish'.
That severe philosophy, which you would appear to support, is not the only view of justice. If in fact the world does perish there would not be much to celebrate.
You need to check your attitude, OnyxCollie. This is a discussion forum.