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[rhett o rick]

41. We are getting closer and closer to the point where we must decide whose side we are on.

Shamefully there are political liberals (supposedly) that defend absolutely everything the president does or says. They apparently have decided to be on that side however it works out. I think that for some the "sides" are unclear. They want their life to be simplified so they have arbitrarily decided that Democrats are good and Repubs are bad. This is unfortunate because the Powers To Be (B613) are smart enough to take advantage of this. But Pres Obama has two more years to prove whose side he is on. Attempting to rationalize away torture is not a good sign.

"To some, however, Party and personalities are more important than principles. I'll argue that without principles we might as well disolve the Party." I think that would make a great signature line (except I'd spell dissolve correctly :hi

I am disappointed that bigtree self-deleted his OP re. the "sanctimonious"-ness of the President's speech. If you notice those that ganged up on the OP didn't have a single reasonable argument. They rely on ridicule and ad hominem attacks and try to shut down discussions they don't like. You can't get them to provide a decent argument.