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Laelth

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18. We are in dangerous territory here.

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 11:49 AM

Aug 2014

When we use the same terms for crimes and torts that we also use for "colloquial" meanings, as you suggest, we imply criminal and/or tortious behavior when no law defines such behavior as either a tort or a crime.

In this case, oberliner asked what I consider to be a very good question. If we assume either the criminal or tortious meaning of the term "sexual harassment," it appears that you agree that saying "Minnesota women are hot" is neither criminal nor tortious. I am glad you agree with that.

Any person is entitled to their own point of view regarding what does and what does not constitute "sexual harassment" in the "colloquial" sense, and that is the point it appears you were making. With that I agree, but I am uncomfortable using the term "sexual harassment" in this "colloquial" sense because the term implies serious legal repercussions that I do not believe are warranted in a situation where the alleged criminal or tortfeasor says, "Minnesota women are hot."

-Laelth

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That is sexual harrassment? oberliner Aug 2014 #1

OMG I know right? redqueen Aug 2014 #2

I am just asking if that is sexual harrassment oberliner Aug 2014 #3

You Would Have To Ask Her, Sir.... The Magistrate Aug 2014 #4

OK oberliner Aug 2014 #9

Hmm ... Laelth Aug 2014 #11

No, Sir, In This Context I Do Not Agree The Magistrate Aug 2014 #15

Correct me if I'm wrong oberliner Aug 2014 #17

I Would Consider The Reaction Of The Person Addressed The Most Important Factor, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #19

The content of what is actually said is not the most important factor? oberliner Aug 2014 #27

The Term You Are Looking For, Sir, Is 'Situational Awareness' The Magistrate Aug 2014 #29

We are in dangerous territory here. Laelth Aug 2014 #18

Only If One Is Trying To Be Deliberately Obtuse And 'Stir The Shit', Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #21

I agree with your description(s). Laelth Aug 2014 #31

Well, let's consider the "Minnesota chicks are hot" comment on its face. calimary Aug 2014 #14

Thanks for the response oberliner Aug 2014 #16

Thank you. It's amazing to me how much re-education is desperately needed in our society. calimary Aug 2014 #26

That YouTube site has many similar videos oberliner Aug 2014 #28

"I'm just asking..." chervilant Aug 2014 #7

It's depressing, in these discussions, redqueen Aug 2014 #34

Seriously?!? chervilant Aug 2014 #5

OK, sorry oberliner Aug 2014 #8

If you're asking in good faith, chervilant Aug 2014 #12

I consider myself a feminist oberliner Aug 2014 #13

The rules of the work environment apparently apply to everyone, everywhere, at all times. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #20

I can see already chervilant Aug 2014 #6

No offense meant oberliner Aug 2014 #10

A gentle question back to you - calimary Aug 2014 #22

I get where you are coming from oberliner Aug 2014 #23

Good post. laundry_queen Aug 2014 #41

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Are you a woman? Have you ever walked down the street and just *knew* that if you Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #30

My cell phone has video capability. I thought most of them do, at this point. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #32

Unfortunate. And true. And DAMN TIRESOME. calimary Aug 2014 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Courtesy Flush Aug 2014 #35

The fuck are you going on about, Courtesy Flush? Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #36

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lol! Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #38

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I wish she had these idiots on video and posted it on you tube! nt Logical Aug 2014 #40