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In reply to the discussion: SEXIST MARRIED ASS HAT GETS ASS HANDED TO HIM (Video) [View all]calimary
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I'm guessing you're male? It's kind of a syndrome, I think. Many men are NOT liberated, despite everything we women, we feminists (ME for sure! I'm rather PROUD of that term and the reforms, advances, and social maturity we feminists have tried to encourage since the '70s!) have attempted to foster. A man would never know or understand how it is to be regarded as a mere piece of meat. Back in my day, one of the big books we all read when we weren't supposed to - was "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth. Perhaps the most memorable moment in that book was when our poor hero, obsessed with the process of ejaculation, was so driven by his hormones that he actually violated the piece of liver he found in the family fridge one afternoon - "and then had, again, at the end of a fork" at dinnertime. That was SO KEY for me. Woman might as well be a piece of liver. We seem to serve the same function, don't we? A vessel. Or a container. In the Men's Pleasuring Department of your local full-service department store.
It's a reduction. A reduction and demeaning and diminishment of us as PEOPLE. As creative, contributing, valued PEOPLE. We're more than one-half of the world population. We are the TRUE majority. And we're still viewed by much of (male-dominated) society as nothing more than objects. Mainly container objects. Our value is what you put into us. Your "instrument" as it were, or your seed.
YEESSSSSSSSSS I know, biologically it's a basic thing. We were the ones into which an extra internal container was installed. Not just the container for food. Or the containers for liquid and solid waste products. Or the containers for filtration. Or the twin containers for air. But there comes a point where we're forced to ask - Is That ALL We're Here For? Is that our only value? Are we little more than cattle being judged at auction for milk production or quality of beef? Are we little more than superficially pretty ornaments outside the home and mere brood mares inside? Is THAT all we are? Is that ALL we're worth? Sure seems like it, especially when reinforced by the WOOHOOOOs out there snap-judging us for - I'm sorry but - our fuckability?
Don't mean to pile on you but I guess when you pose that question... this is the response that's provoked. I see I'm not the only one, here. And some of us are still chafing from being on the receiving end of that for most of our lives.
This is just me bloviating some more, here, but it seems to me what we are fighting is the AGE-OLD notion of woman as less. Children of a lesser god, as it were. Woman as property! Woman as a mere thing. A commodity to be bought, sold, traded, stolen, brokered in one way or other. Hell, men were doing that with their own DAUGHTERS!!! Selling them to the highest bidder for strategic or familial ulterior motives. Marrying them off as soon as their cycles started so they could - do what? Mainly BREED. Men were never "valued" in quite that way. Men have never known that diminishment. Men have never known that societal attitude - that you're a mere thing. Men have never been regarded as mere property. Men have never had to taste that bitter wine, much less have that bitter wine the ONLY wine they ever get served. Men have never had to know or understand, And they need to do both. That, seems to me, is the essence of the feminist imperative. Doing away with THAT. Evolving away from THAT.