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IADEMO2004

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56. Link: It Is Illegal.

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:05 PM

Aug 2014

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/epa-coal-rolling-short-answer-illegal

Purchia pointed to two paragraphs on the air enforcement page of the EPA's website. One paragraph said:

It is a violation of the [Clean Air Act] to manufacture, sell, or install a part for a motor vehicle that bypasses, defeats, or renders inoperative any emission control device. For example, computer software that alters diesel fuel injection timing is a defeat device. Defeat devices, which are often sold to enhance engine performance, work by disabling a vehicle's emission controls, causing air pollution. As a result of EPA enforcement, some of the largest manufacturers of defeat devices have agreed to pay penalties and stop the sale of defeat devices.

The other paragraph said:

The CAA prohibits anyone from tampering with an emission control device on a motor vehicle by removing it or making it inoperable prior to or after the sale or delivery to the buyer. A vehicle's emission control system is designed to limit emissions of harmful pollutants from vehicles or engines. EPA works with manufacturers to ensure that they design their components with tamper-proofing, addresses trade groups to educate mechanics about the importance of maintaining the emission control systems, and prosecutes cases where significant or imminent harm is occurring.

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I came across one of those guys who MacGyvers their vehicles to emit extra exhaust [View all] BainsBane Aug 2014 OP

Yipes shenmue Aug 2014 #1

It can't be legal. Evergreen Emerald Aug 2014 #2

Probably diddly squat. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #4

Same problem here liberal N proud Aug 2014 #27

Hopefully they are getting tickets. nt BainsBane Aug 2014 #5

They Probably Have Guns Too otohara Aug 2014 #44

Link: It Is Illegal. IADEMO2004 Aug 2014 #56

Change your title ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2014 #3

MacGyver is now a word in the English language BainsBane Aug 2014 #6

Then feel free to misuse the American language as you peas ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2014 #7

Oh my Gosh BainsBane Aug 2014 #11

In actuality, and kind of implied by the dictionary, implies doing it for a positivite outcome. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #37

LOL BainsBane Aug 2014 #57

Almost as sad taking issue with, then digging your feet into the use of the word LanternWaste Aug 2014 #40

Where else have we seen this ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #53

Common misconception 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #9

Then where should I look? BainsBane Aug 2014 #12

You need to look the word dictionary up in a dictionary rock Aug 2014 #13

Also he's thinking of abridged dictionaries BainsBane Aug 2014 #14

I think he's a repiggie rock Aug 2014 #15

Now I had to look up repiggie BainsBane Aug 2014 #16

You have to use the right dictionary rock Aug 2014 #17

Yep, that's what came up on Google BainsBane Aug 2014 #18

hardly. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2014 #22

I apologize for thinking so then rock Aug 2014 #23

I was swirling about Richard, the MacGyver character. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2014 #25

How do you know so much about someone with 13 posts? BainsBane Aug 2014 #26

I was writing about the MacGyver actor. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2014 #41

Oh, I see BainsBane Aug 2014 #42

yeah, my bad. I wish I had been clearer. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2014 #45

I think the word you were looking for in your OP was "modified", instead of "MacGyvered". Electric Monk Aug 2014 #48

After this BainsBane Aug 2014 #58

Not always ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #54

If they were just teenagers, sadoldgirl Aug 2014 #8

The federal government can use the money too jmowreader Aug 2014 #20

There are A-holes everywhere FreakinDJ Aug 2014 #10

Hopefully the fad will die out BainsBane Aug 2014 #19

I've had a Turbo Diesel for years FreakinDJ Aug 2014 #21

so you mercuryblues Aug 2014 #52

Did the smoke obscure your view of the road? jmondine Aug 2014 #24

How could he see your bumper sticker if he was in front of you the whole way, as you said? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #28

Wow, you read minds BainsBane Aug 2014 #33

That wasn't part of your story. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #34

It is illegal, but the fines are usually small Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #29

What city was it? minivan2 Aug 2014 #30

St. Paul BainsBane Aug 2014 #32

He was probably from a rural county. minivan2 Aug 2014 #36

An exurb, perhaps BainsBane Aug 2014 #39

assholes are everywhere. spanone Aug 2014 #31

Did you take down his tag number? Warpy Aug 2014 #35

You'd think the OP would have memorized the tag, having driven behind it for a while Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #38

No BainsBane Aug 2014 #51

I would hate to be so weak-minded and in the pocket of our corporate overlords ... dawg Aug 2014 #43

As an FYI, most poorly maintained diesel engines smoke under hard acceleration. Xithras Aug 2014 #46

This was a late-model truck though BainsBane Aug 2014 #47

Even relatively new diesels do. Xithras Aug 2014 #61

Sounds like you know what you're talking about. BainsBane Aug 2014 #62

I've owned a few over the years. No longer. Xithras Aug 2014 #63

I ran into a jack-hole doing this in Portland OR yesterday. Maedhros Aug 2014 #49

Not too long ago we had a post on DU BainsBane Aug 2014 #50

Yup mercuryblues Aug 2014 #55

Lets see these people MacGyver their catalytic converter when it tanks!!!!! benld74 Aug 2014 #59

Now you've done it BainsBane Aug 2014 #60

"Coal Rollers" are brave revolutionaries fighting against tyranny by environmentalists IronLionZion Aug 2014 #64

In a way, this is a good thing maxrandb Aug 2014 #65