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Douglas Carpenter

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19. Israeli attacks on Civilians so outnumber Palestinian attacks the numbers are so lopsided
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:54 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Mon Aug 4, 2014, 10:53 PM - Edit history (1)

that it is almost ridiculous to compare. But don't take my word for it. Check with ANY mainstream internationally recognized credible human rights monitoring organization - from Amnesty International to Human Rights Watch to the International Committee of the Red Cross. Check with ANY of them. BTW: Christian Palestinians overwhelming stand with their Muslim brothers in the fight for a just and lasting peace based on equality of human worth. You are quite mistaken if you think Christian Palestinians side with the Israelis. Are there other countries were the indigenous population agreed to surrender half their land to alien settlers without a fight? There is not a shred of evidence that Israel is willing to remove enough settlements or any settlements to even make a viable contiguous Palestinian state even possible. In fact Bibi has made it clear that he has no intentions of removing one single settler. There is not a shred of evidence that the State of Israel views " the peace process" as anything other than scam to buy time while making a Palestinians state impossible. And they have already succeeded.


There are 534,224 settlers in the West Bank including East Jerusalem as of 2010**. According to B'tselem: The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights, " the built-up area of the settlements in the West Bank covers 1.7 percent of the West Bank, the settlements control 41.9 percent of the entire West Bank" .*

**http://www.fmep.org/settlement_info/settlement-info-and-tables/stats-data/comprehensive-settlement-population-1972-2006

http://www.btselem.org/English/Maps/Index.asp

full PDF map:

http://www.btselem.org/Download/Settlements_Map_Eng.pdf




http://www.ft.com/cms/s/728a69d4-12b1-11dc-a475-000b5df10621,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F728a69d4-12b1-11dc-a475-000b5df10621.html%3Fnclick_check%3D1&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fdiscuss%2Fdu#axzz2ZoDLB6il



“there is no Palestinian state, even though the Israelis speak of one.” Instead, he said, “there will be a settler state and a Palestinian built-up area, divided into three sectors, cut by fingers of Israeli settlement and connected only by narrow roads."


Israel has never slowed down its relentless settlement expansion - EVER!



Comprehensive Settlement Population 1972-2008
— filed under: general-stats, stats


Year West Bank Gaza Strip East Jerusalem Golan Heights Total
1972 1,182 700 8,649 77 10,608
1983 22,800 900 76,095 6,800 106,595
1985 44,100 1,900 103,900* 8,700 158,700
1989 69,800 3,000 117,100 10,000 199,900
1990 78,600 3,300 135,000 10,600 227,500
1991 90,300 3,800 137,300 11,600 243,000
1992 101,100 4,300 141,000 12,000 258,400
1993 111,600 4,800 152,800 12,600 281,800
1995 133,200 5,300 157,300 13,400 309,200
1996 142,700 5,600 160,400 13,800 322,500
1997 154,400 5,700 161,416 14,300 335,816
1998 163,300 6,100 165,967 14,900 350,267
1999 177,411 6,337 170,123 15,313 369,184
2000 192,976 6,678 172,250 15,955 387,859
2002 214,722 7,277 175,617 16,503 414,119
2003 224,669 7,556 178,601 16,791 427,617
2004 234,487 7,826 181,587 17,265 441,828
2005 258,988 0 184,057 17,793 460,838
2006 268,400 0 186,857 18,105
473,362
2007 276,462 0 189,708 18,692 484,862
2008 295,380 0 n/a 19,083 n/a
2009 299,440 0 191,960 19,248 510,648
2010 314,132 0 198,629 19,797 534,224


*1986 data

Source: Central Bureau of Statistics, Statistical Abstract of Israel, 1992-2008 and List of Localities, the Populations, and Symbols, 1995-2008. Statistical Yearbook of Jerusalem, Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies, 1991-2010.

http://www.fmep.org/settlement_info/settlement-info-and-tables/stats-data/comprehensive-settlement-population-1972-2006

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An Auschwitz Survivor speaks about Palestine [View all] Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 OP
Well, I agree with this man. upaloopa Aug 2014 #1
Sadly, a lot of us agree with him Warpy Aug 2014 #2
K&R nt alsame Aug 2014 #3
A voice of reason stating the obvious. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #4
K&R closeupready Aug 2014 #5
A sad K&R Garthem Aug 2014 #6
Thank You !! abakan Aug 2014 #7
Well at least no one can easily criticize an Auschwitz survivor..... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #8
Even those who DO see this - most will dismiss it out of hand. Plucketeer Aug 2014 #10
If your Congressdunce watches FOX...... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #21
so far no one has, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #18
I think the tide is starting to turn. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2014 #22
K&R valerief Aug 2014 #9
Very well said tom_kelly Aug 2014 #11
He's exactly right! santamargarita Aug 2014 #12
There is often a big difference PatSeg Aug 2014 #13
indeed Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #20
K&R McCamy Taylor Aug 2014 #14
I'm so touched libodem Aug 2014 #15
I hope any one who allows his frustration with Bibi cross into anti-semitism sees this Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #16
The list of Palestinian attacks on civilians is very long. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #17
Israeli attacks on Civilians so outnumber Palestinian attacks the numbers are so lopsided Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #19
And yet, there is no answer but to negotiate peace. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #24
Here is a very sensible conversation representing both side of the argument Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #25
Well. They have to negotiate. There is no other choice. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #26
But why would anyone want to raise their children in Israel. It is a place of hate. underthematrix Aug 2014 #28
Dr. Hajo Meyer is sadly exactly correct on what Israel has become: The Second Stone Aug 2014 #23
A few salient points absent from that: Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #32
I agree. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #27
K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #29
Deeply moving and so on point. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #30
knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #31
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