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Douglas Carpenter

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25. Here is a very sensible conversation representing both side of the argument

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:28 AM

Aug 2014

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with Shlomo Ben Ami, Former Israeli Foreign Minister and Chief Israeli Negotiator under the Ehud Barack Labor Government as he debates or discusses the process with Professor Norman Finkelstein:

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/2/14/fmr_israeli_foreign_minister_shlomo_ben

Unfortunately, the current Israeli government or any likely alternative Israeli government that could plausibly be formed within the foreseeable future is not as reasonable as Shlomo Ben Ami. When the current Israeli Prime Minister rejects in principle removing any settlers and the current Israeli Foreign Minister, Avigdor Lieberman is so extreme that if it wasn't for the very special relationship America has with Israel - there is no way our government would even allow him to visit America. Under these circumstances - it is hard to imagine what there is to negotiate.

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Well, I agree with this man. upaloopa Aug 2014 #1

Sadly, a lot of us agree with him Warpy Aug 2014 #2

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A voice of reason stating the obvious. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #4

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A sad K&R Garthem Aug 2014 #6

Thank You !! abakan Aug 2014 #7

Well at least no one can easily criticize an Auschwitz survivor..... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #8

Even those who DO see this - most will dismiss it out of hand. Plucketeer Aug 2014 #10

If your Congressdunce watches FOX...... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #21

so far no one has, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #18

I think the tide is starting to turn. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2014 #22

K&R valerief Aug 2014 #9

Very well said tom_kelly Aug 2014 #11

He's exactly right! santamargarita Aug 2014 #12

There is often a big difference PatSeg Aug 2014 #13

indeed Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #20

K&R McCamy Taylor Aug 2014 #14

I'm so touched libodem Aug 2014 #15

I hope any one who allows his frustration with Bibi cross into anti-semitism sees this Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #16

The list of Palestinian attacks on civilians is very long. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #17

Israeli attacks on Civilians so outnumber Palestinian attacks the numbers are so lopsided Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #19

And yet, there is no answer but to negotiate peace. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #24

Here is a very sensible conversation representing both side of the argument Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #25

Well. They have to negotiate. There is no other choice. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #26

But why would anyone want to raise their children in Israel. It is a place of hate. underthematrix Aug 2014 #28

Dr. Hajo Meyer is sadly exactly correct on what Israel has become: The Second Stone Aug 2014 #23

A few salient points absent from that: Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #32

I agree. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #27

K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #29

Deeply moving and so on point. snagglepuss Aug 2014 #30

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #31