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25. Christopher Hedges says the Israeli government routinely lies

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 03:18 AM

Aug 2014

about Hamas using civilian shields. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5334487

I found his account convincing.

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Congratulations, Hamas. [View all] RandySF Aug 2014 OP

I disagree with your assessment. lovemydog Aug 2014 #1

Pretty Much, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #2

You are spot on, sir Lithos Aug 2014 #8

That Is What They Need To Do, Sir, But I Fear They Will Not The Magistrate Aug 2014 #10

That is a painful truth Lithos Aug 2014 #14

Yes. And on both sides, innocent people suffer because of it. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #19

I wish I could rec a response, sir. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #9

with all due respect exactly what has Israel 'lost' here, what has Hamas 'won'? azurnoir Aug 2014 #17

Israel Has Lost The Political Dimension Of This Conflict, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #65

again with all due respect Sir azurnoir Aug 2014 #96

I Expect Where We Have Points Of Agreement, Sir, Would Be This The Magistrate Aug 2014 #98

Thank you Sir I'm honored truly I am but one small thing azurnoir Aug 2014 #99

+1. bemildred Aug 2014 #61

Likud v. HAmas will only move into a cold war stage, waiting for the next hot war between the ... MohRokTah Aug 2014 #3

Astute observation. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #20

Too bad Netanyahu has never been smart enough to see it villager Aug 2014 #4

so, in your estimation, Israel played into Hamas' hands bigtree Aug 2014 #5

Hamas and Likud need each other just as much as they hate each other. RandySF Aug 2014 #6

A relevant personal story from my past WestCoastLib Aug 2014 #7

The Israelis went into Gaza in order to destroy the tunnels. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #21

Cognitive Dissonance whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #11

Did you miss that Israel started this war? shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #12

++++++ swilton Aug 2014 #13

Thank you. That is why I disagree with the assessment. lovemydog Aug 2014 #15

Weren't there several jihadi groups which were variously Loudly Aug 2014 #18

Did I misplace my boiled egg? My puppy ate a sprocket shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #23

That's about as cogent as a barrage of Qassams. n/t Loudly Aug 2014 #54

List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2014 oberliner Aug 2014 #40

None of which were fired by Hamas shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #46

Hamas was the governing authority in Gaza over that time oberliner Aug 2014 #47

Israel is the governing authority in Hebron shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #49

is Obama responsible for the rash of school shootings during his tenure? frylock Aug 2014 #72

The story behind the story that some cannot accept KoKo Aug 2014 #50

this Marrah_G Aug 2014 #52

It used to be easier to defend Israel's oppression of the Palestinians. Now that the world sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #56

Recent history being exposed....how dare you bring up this stuff. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #66

^^$$$$$$THIS$$$$$$^^ Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #67

THANK YOU redqueen Aug 2014 #69

Your July 25 entry may also be incorrect oberliner Aug 2014 #80

Then you may need to provide evidence to that effect shaayecanaan Aug 2014 #85

Hamas did not win. US policy, as far as I can tell, has not changed one iota. lovemydog Aug 2014 #16

Behind high-minded motivations... BlueCheese Aug 2014 #22

This represents a very fundamental misunderstanding of the situation, I am afraid. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #24

Thank you for this post. lovemydog Aug 2014 #37

For your complete objectively from day one of this mess malaise Aug 2014 #43

Christopher Hedges says the Israeli government routinely lies BainsBane Aug 2014 #25

Me, too... KansDem Aug 2014 #30

So at least two schools leftynyc Aug 2014 #48

Israel does lie. And the innocent victims are Palestinian civilians and children. DanTex Aug 2014 #51

Do you have a source you can point me to for that? BainsBane Aug 2014 #59

Christopher Hedges is correct. They are very blatant about it too. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #62

Well then, i guess in order to not look like murdering thugs... bravenak Aug 2014 #26

First if Netnayahu is a hothead, he shouldn't be president underthematrix Aug 2014 #27

What was Hamas supposed to do? Submariner Aug 2014 #28

Israel has no settlements in Gaza onenote Aug 2014 #34

Israel has settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #35

And Hamas isn't the governing authority in those areas onenote Aug 2014 #36

It's still occupied Palestinian territory. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #38

Gaza is the land devastated by by that baby butcher, Bibi, rateyes Aug 2014 #29

Too early for full results Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #31

Ah, but who goaded the conflict intaglio Aug 2014 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Aug 2014 #33

Uncomfortably similar to the American response to 9/11. GliderGuider Aug 2014 #41

+1. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #63

Could you show us on a map where the non-populated areas are? n/t eridani Aug 2014 #39

Sure...(i assume u mean in Gaza) EX500rider Aug 2014 #79

Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth eridani Aug 2014 #83

Still has lots of empty room. EX500rider Aug 2014 #84

I see, they should visibly travel in open areas and get bombed. Even Hamas isn't that stupid eridani Aug 2014 #86

Much better to hide amoung women & children? not.. EX500rider Aug 2014 #90

They LIVE among women and children eridani Aug 2014 #95

What proportion of those open spaces are occupied by the IDF, part of the new stranger81 Aug 2014 #87

Neither is the answer 100% EX500rider Aug 2014 #88

So what is the answer? [n/t] stranger81 Aug 2014 #91

I am afraid no good answers....although all side making peace would be nice.. EX500rider Aug 2014 #92

I ask this question because I've been trying to find the answer myself for some time, stranger81 Aug 2014 #93

What in inversion of reality malaise Aug 2014 #42

They were able to gain a lot of support, too. LexVegas Aug 2014 #44

I would venture to say that the innocent Palestinian people have gained support justiceischeap Aug 2014 #64

And plenty here will cheer this leftynyc Aug 2014 #45

Netanyahu did exactly what he wanted to do CJCRANE Aug 2014 #53

Sun-Tzu laid out the strategy, many years ago: riqster Aug 2014 #55

Hamas had not fired rockets for 19 months. And it was 3 teens that Hamas DIDN'T kill that gave magical thyme Aug 2014 #57

Over a hundred rockets were fired from Gaza from January to June hack89 Aug 2014 #58

Yet none were fired by Hamas Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2014 #68

Hamas is legally responsible for every attack from Gaza hack89 Aug 2014 #71

Placing responsibilty for all acts happening within gaza Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2014 #73

So what is the point of negotiating peace with Hamas if they can't enforce it? hack89 Aug 2014 #74

somewhat off the mark Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2014 #78

The Palestinians shouldn't fight back, ever, just lay there and take it. The Straight Story Aug 2014 #60

you make me hit you, honey frylock Aug 2014 #70

That is exactly how these people sound to me Marrah_G Aug 2014 #82

Kick & recommended. William769 Aug 2014 #75

OMG, how stupid. closeupready Aug 2014 #76

How I weep for Israel's leaders Distant Quasar Aug 2014 #77

Just finished watching Blitzer's interview of Moshe Feiglin, Deputy Speaker in the Knesset aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #81

So was Wolf even the least bit critical of this guy? [n/t] stranger81 Aug 2014 #89

He kept asking the guy to own up to his previous statements about shipping Gazans off to the Sinai aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #94

Not to many places in Gaza that's not populated! B Calm Aug 2014 #97