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In reply to the discussion: Chris Hedges: Why Israel Lies [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(105,884 posts)132. For access: "IDF Censor Tells NY Times It Cannot Report It Killed 2nd Lt. Hadar Goldin"
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/08/02/idf-censor-tells-ny-times-it-cannot-report-it-killed-2nd-lt-hadar-goldin/
Yesterday, I reported that Hamas fighters had captured 2nd Lt. Hadar Goldin in a Gaza ambush. I also reported that Hamas said it had lost contact with the team that captured Goldin and that the team and Goldin were presumed dead. My Israeli source revealed that the IDF survivors of the ambush had shot both Goldin and the Palestinian who tried to drag his wounded body away. The Hannibal Directive had been invoked, meaning the army used every means at its disposal including murder to prevent the taking of its soldiers. Today, Walla confirmed via the IDF that Goldin is dead.
In the hours following his capture, the IDF bombarded Rafah with heavy artillery and from the air in order to both take vengeance for the ambush which killed two senior officers; and to kill Goldin. Over 60 Gazans died. Though the IDF conceded Godin is dead. But it did not concede that it killed him and did so deliberately. That is why the army censor warned the Times about its reporting. Here is how the Times public editor reported it today:
"After the initial publication of this article, the militarys censor informed The New York Times that further information related to Lieutenant Goldin would have to be submitted for prior review. Journalists for foreign news organizations must agree in writing to the military censorship system to work in Israel. This was the first censorship notification The Times had received in more than six years.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025329904
Yesterday, I reported that Hamas fighters had captured 2nd Lt. Hadar Goldin in a Gaza ambush. I also reported that Hamas said it had lost contact with the team that captured Goldin and that the team and Goldin were presumed dead. My Israeli source revealed that the IDF survivors of the ambush had shot both Goldin and the Palestinian who tried to drag his wounded body away. The Hannibal Directive had been invoked, meaning the army used every means at its disposal including murder to prevent the taking of its soldiers. Today, Walla confirmed via the IDF that Goldin is dead.
In the hours following his capture, the IDF bombarded Rafah with heavy artillery and from the air in order to both take vengeance for the ambush which killed two senior officers; and to kill Goldin. Over 60 Gazans died. Though the IDF conceded Godin is dead. But it did not concede that it killed him and did so deliberately. That is why the army censor warned the Times about its reporting. Here is how the Times public editor reported it today:
"After the initial publication of this article, the militarys censor informed The New York Times that further information related to Lieutenant Goldin would have to be submitted for prior review. Journalists for foreign news organizations must agree in writing to the military censorship system to work in Israel. This was the first censorship notification The Times had received in more than six years.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025329904
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The De-Facto American rules of journalism that Chuck Todd openly acknowledged.
Uncle Joe
Aug 2014
#15
What a load of BS. The whole point of journalism is to seek and expose the truth.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#68
For access: "IDF Censor Tells NY Times It Cannot Report It Killed 2nd Lt. Hadar Goldin"
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#132
What does the murder of 10 year old boys have to do with Palestinian terrorism?
The Second Stone
Aug 2014
#41
Criminal prosecution in the Hague for crimes against humanity for the people issuing the orders
The Second Stone
Aug 2014
#85
The rule had been even before adoption of that resolution, return to home country UNLESS...
happyslug
Aug 2014
#120
I notice you ignored my comment about what to do about the Palestinians Refugees.
happyslug
Aug 2014
#142
It's a real mess. Some of them could come here. But we could not take in 10 million refugees.
JDPriestly
Aug 2014
#148
But without the immoral Occupation of Palestinian territory by the Israelis,
truedelphi
Aug 2014
#84
You are speaking as though the foundation of what I am talking about was a moral foundation.
truedelphi
Aug 2014
#91
"...drones overhead made us super paranoid that anywhere we went, we might get blown to bits..."
Electric Monk
Aug 2014
#57
"Israel would never..." Okay. Let's look at this from the exactly opposite point of view.
DetlefK
Aug 2014
#31
I think the Nazi comparison is a subtle form of irony on the author's part. n/t
A Simple Game
Aug 2014
#40
Your position is that the comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany is an apt one?
oberliner
Aug 2014
#103
Most of the world sees it that way. Israel is despised around the world
The Second Stone
Aug 2014
#115
Always demonize and dehumanize your supposed enemy. Typical tact throughout all history.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#18
"in the uncommon cases when news of atrocities penetrates to the wider public"
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#75
Thanks for this, I am checking with my Jewish friend, who is aligned with J Street
randys1
Aug 2014
#82
If he's lying, then the IDF is the most poorly trained, incompetent, bumbling
countryjake
Aug 2014
#104
he was reprimanded by his employer, the New York Times for speaking out against the Iraq War
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#105
Little secret. Most journalists spin stories toward a certain point of view.....
marmar
Aug 2014
#108
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW!! - But, I have no idea what the poster you are addressing is talking about
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#122
Israel lies because they are hiring US political consultants expert at manipulating
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#136