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Showing Original Post only (View all)"My Head Exploded When Obama Sanctimoniously Said, 'We Tortured Some Folks'" [View all]

My Head Exploded When Obama Sanctimoniously Said, "We Tortured Some Folks"
By Akira Watts
BuzzFlash | Commentary
Tuesday 05 August 2014
(snip)
It's not simply that "folks" manages to conflate the man who had a major role in planning the September 11th attacks with a guy unlucky enough to get scooped off a street. And it's not simply that "folks" builds on the foundation of vagueness laid by "some." I mean, "folks" just seems like a small number of people. You wouldn't think "look at all those folks" if you saw a stadium filled with people. Both of those points are troubling, but they don't quite get at the skin-crawling creepiness of the phrase.
It's the juxtaposition of the starkness of the first two words with this middle American jolliness that I find hard to stomach. It tries to soften the blow in an utterly tone-deaf fashion. It doesn't work. It doesn't sound like anything an actual human being would ever say, unless it was immediately followed by said human being unhinging its jaw and swallowing you whole.
But hey at least that wasn't the whole speech, right? Surely that was just a minor glitch. Well, sort of. There was the acknowledgement that, what with torturing folks and all, a line was crossed. Not really the sort of statement that should be necessary; once torture is on the table, any lines there may be have pretty much been carpet bombed out of existence. Never mind that, Obama saying that a line had been crossed was a nice gesture.
So what are we going to do about it? Start with what's been done in the past. "[O]ne of the first things I did was to ban some of the extraordinary interrogation techniques that are the subject of that report." Hmm. "Some." Neat. But never mind the past, the past is dead. What about the future. I mean, torture, right? Prosecutions, jail terms, further investigations all of those are surely in the works?
Crickets.
And then this: "And it's important for us not to feel too sanctimonious about the tough job that those folks had. And a lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure and were real patriots." This is the point where my exploded head bursts into flames of rage. Let me get this straight. We tortured. A line was crossed. But we shouldn't be all sanctimonious because the people that did it were patriots and under a lot of pressure. Really?
OK. I get that, given that the droolers in Congress would probably object to Obama declaring Ronald Reagan our national saint, even pushing for prosecutions would be a tricky political sell. Understood. And I'm sure that Obama would rather not blow his political capital on the fight that would ensue, since I just know he's saving all that capital up for something super special that will totally knock our socks off. But, after taking prosecutions or any other meaningful response off the table, was there really any need to make excuses for the people who carried out torture? Or, by extension, for those higher up who ordered and justified it?
Don't get sanctimonious? They were under pressure? They're all good patriots? Are you kidding me?
This is America. Go ahead, violate the Geneva Convention. You're under stress and you're all just wonderful, patriotic people. And after it's all over, we'll acknowledge what you did in a way that does its damndest to minimize the stark horror of what we have become.
We're America and we tortured some folks.
The rest: http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/obama-sancitmoniously-said-we-tortured-some-folks
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WilliamPitt
Aug 2014
OP
Who the hell is Frank Schaeffer? And Huffington loads a person's computer up
truedelphi
Aug 2014
#172
How difficult do you think it would have been for Obama to not say what he said?
cui bono
Aug 2014
#167
Bush in hiding? He's out there giving awards to Derek Jeter. There's talk of him becoming
Demit
Aug 2014
#227
A lack of political will has long been the bane of this Administration. Now a lack of ...
Scuba
Aug 2014
#223
Admit unequivocally that it wrong and that they were not "just doing their jobs"
alarimer
Aug 2014
#74
Obama's hands are NOT tied. He can do whatever he wants to do and frankly, he is required by law
Welibs
Aug 2014
#94
I would start prosecuting those that physically did the torturing and work up the line.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#140
You better believe those words were chosen with the utmost care and they still failed. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#139
By those standards, no crime should ever be prosecuted. After all,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#148
I definitely got that impression also, but we are being told we are 'making stuff up'
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#36
There are some things even the most ardent supporter of any politician should not be
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#71
I'd like to know what he supposedly meant by the sanctimonious remark
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#149
When you look forward, you don't have to worry about the consequences of your own actions.
CrispyQ
Aug 2014
#13
The government political puppet show is entertainment for the ruling corporations and 1%.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#30
Interesting times we live in, as I came to the conclusion that nothing will get better, ever.
Amonester
Aug 2014
#41
The reason that the monsters aren't being tried is that too many Democrats signed off on it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2014
#39
If he doesn't do something about it, he IS responsible for future administrations
sibelian
Aug 2014
#213
That word used by pols makes my skin crawl. Who can forget Bush post 9-11 using folks to describe
snagglepuss
Aug 2014
#55
The only part of the Constitution that many seem to care about is the 2nd Amendment.
Contrary1
Aug 2014
#68
It's a German word meaning "People" with a connotation of "Common People" in the U.S.
Zen Democrat
Aug 2014
#64
Sorry, Frank Church is dead and the Republicans are controlling the House at the moment. n/t
PoliticAverse
Aug 2014
#203
No, the real problem is, you, just like the right wingers who have been pissed off about the torture
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#110
Well, you are both expressing disingenious outrage over the President stating a fact regarding...
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#114
'Fact'? You think it's a 'fact' that the torturers were 'real patriots'?
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#117
Then you ought to read beyond the titles of threads before responding to them
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#128
Not only that but apparently if Bush can't be prosecuted then they all should get
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#137
Well that's special that you've accepted it. For some of us it's harder than just rolling over.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#144
I'm not dumping my principles. I'm just an adult who accepts that the world doesn't always work...
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#152
No, there's nothing about it being people "doing what they were basically told to do"
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#141
Making things up won't help you convince anyone with a brain or conscience (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#147
So the "real problem" is Will? As if he is the only one with this opinion.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#145
I'll throw you in that boat too. You folks are just looking for something to get pissed off about.
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#154
If that makes life easier for you, feel free. Much easier than dealing with the truth.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#156
And you understand "reality" while philosophers have been struggling with it for centuries.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#207
he's just looking for the kind of attention he had during the bush admin on DU....
dionysus
Aug 2014
#210
I say "folks" all the time. I grew up in So. WV, its just one of those words I'm use to I guess.
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#123
Annnnnd you are totally off the point. Apparently intentionally. It isn't the word.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#161
willfully pretending that this an a regionalist assault on your choice of pronouns...
bobduca
Aug 2014
#183
Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. President is a scoundrel on this subject
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#115
I wanted to write what I thought of the President's speech but this article did it much better.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#135
http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20101027/lotfi_morteza20101027125134403.jpg
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2014
#158
http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/iraq-torture-dogs-thumb-tm.jpg
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2014
#159
Hey, look! it's some folks! Dead, tortured folks. Dead and tortured in our name.
myrna minx
Aug 2014
#173
torture, wall street criminals, spying, offshoring, H1B, patriot act, Israeli violence
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#195