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In reply to the discussion: An Open Letter to Elie Wiesel - Have You No Shame, Sir? [View all]cpwm17
(3,829 posts)22. He's a phony
Here's what Christopher Hitchens wrote about Elie Wiesel in The Nation before Hitchens lost his mind on 9-11:
http://www.thenation.com/article/wiesel-words
Is there a more contemptible poseur and windbag than Elie Wiesel? I suppose there may be. But not, surely, a poseur and windbag who receives (and takes as his due) such grotesque deference on moral questions. Look, if you will, at his essay on Jerusalem in the New York Times of January 24.As a Jew living in the United States, I have long denied myself the right to intervene in Israel's internal debates.... My critics have their conception of social and individual ethics; I have mine. But while I grant them their right to criticize, they sometimes deny mine to abstain.
Such magnificent condescension, to grant his critics the right. And it is not certain from when Wiesel dates his high-minded abstention from Israel's internal affairs; he was a member of Menachem Begin's Irgun in the 1940s, when that force employed extreme violence against Arab civilians and was more than ready to use it against Jews. At all events, his dubious claim above is only a pompous preface to discarding nonintervention in the present because Jerusalem is at stake, and "the fact that I do not live in Jerusalem is secondary; Jerusalem lives within me." (Again the modesty.) There are, sad to say, serpents in Wiesel's internal Eden, and they too must be patronized:That Muslims might wish to maintain close ties with this city unlike any other is understandable. Although its name does not appear in the Koran, Jerusalem is the third holiest city in Islam. But for Jews, it remains the first. Not just the first; the only.
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faking claims of anti-Semitism is not going to work anymore. Give it up
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#65
Coded anti-Semitism ("Jews run the banks and Hollywood") and ignorance of pogroms, WWII, etc.
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#157
Any one who claims to sum up the situation in Israel in 100 words or less is an idiot.
former9thward
Aug 2014
#173
That 75% also includes many of the soldiers who are part of the occupying army stationed in Gaza...
DesertDiamond
Aug 2014
#128
and spoken in absolute contradiction to his rhetoric of today... Other holocaust survivors are also
hlthe2b
Aug 2014
#18
Not possible for him to respond, sir. Black and white categorization is demanded for effective
Fred Sanders
Aug 2014
#12
Justifying war crimes and the murder of children will tend to leave a person under a bus.
DanTex
Aug 2014
#6
Thanks for posting a different perspective of Israel/Palestine history from a first hand observer.
lumpy
Aug 2014
#72
Killing and demonizing brown children while saying they celebrate life....sound familiar?
Fred Sanders
Aug 2014
#11
Meaning exactly WHAT? You can't believe he survived his concentration camp years? No, you meant
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#158
with the massive overcrowding in the ever shrinking Gaza, it is impossible not to
magical thyme
Aug 2014
#26
Have you seen images of what used to be Palestinian lands that are now Israeli lands?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2014
#78
You forgot that time IDF went to court to fight for the right to use Palestinians as human shields.
bravenak
Aug 2014
#129
"About taking land. I understand a country faced with annihilation every day..."
magical thyme
Aug 2014
#144
so the Palestinians can easily walk away from their homes, and give up what little hasn't been stole
magical thyme
Aug 2014
#149
The way some of these people talk one would think it was the Palestinians who ran the death camps.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#40
that is absolute bullshite -and Nazi Germany did actively support the Jewish settlement in Palestine
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#77
I lost all respect for him when he wrote an editorial urging the invasion of Iraq.
Crunchy Frog
Aug 2014
#45
I was shocked by Wiesel's letter too. He essentially repudiated his great work.
BillZBubb
Aug 2014
#76
I am in total agreement----I taught NIGHT in my HS English classes for 15-20 years
nikto
Aug 2014
#112
I think they would do better to just work together. Otherwise they should ALL move.
bravenak
Aug 2014
#168
Hamas are beyond contemptible scumbags and fundies. That doesn't make Wiesel right.
chrisa
Aug 2014
#165
I learned the truth about Elie Wiesel several years ago from Norman Finkelstein's invaluable work
CrawlingChaos
Aug 2014
#140