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Octafish

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94. Roll your eyes all you want. US involvement in Vietnam lasted, what, 1953-1973?

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 12:30 PM

Aug 2014

US involvement in Afghanistan has lasted, what, since 2001? And here it is 2014.

In between, there've been a lot more wars. Not much money for peace, though. But, like the warmonger Baby Doc Bush said on Feb. 14, 2007:

"Money trumps peace." And then he laughed.

I remember Cindy Sheehan tried to bring it to our nation's attention.

As for his Poppy: Bush Sr told the FBI he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.

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When did Kucinich say that? Octafish Aug 2014 #48

Real Time with Bill Maher, April 29, 2007 MohRokTah Aug 2014 #52

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He was a fool. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #71

He wasn't a fool and he doesn't deserve your derision. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #73

Thanks. Octafish Aug 2014 #81

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You are so right. And if we keep thinking your way, all we'll get are warmongers and war profiteers. Octafish Aug 2014 #86

. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #90

Roll your eyes all you want. US involvement in Vietnam lasted, what, 1953-1973? Octafish Aug 2014 #94

. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #97

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