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Nuclear Unicorn

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65. I'll define mine if you define yours.

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:04 PM

Aug 2014

A "grabber" would be someone who would ban and/or confiscate guns and/or impose such nuisance restrictions that would make owning and carrying a gun all but impossible but have no effect on stopping illegitimate gun use.

Examples of the latter proposition would be those who demand magazine size restrictions even though mass shootings are not the epidemic portrayed. Another example would be putting fees on guns and ammunition.

So, what constitutes "basic gun safety"?

I would define it as opening the NICS to private sellers and tying use thereof with release from liability on the part of the seller. I think shooting sports should return to schools so a proper culture of safety can be developed. I also think that in light of data such as ~70% of gun homicides involve a killer with a prior felony crime we should be looking for opportunities to interdict those who are actually dangerous because it makes better legal and logistical sense.

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I started a topless gun protest because ammo-sexuals still won't shut up [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2014 OP

And she looked as looney fringe pipoman Aug 2014 #1

Why? BainsBane Aug 2014 #90

How did she not? Not exactly mainstream behavior... pipoman Aug 2014 #99

Huh? 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #101

what? only one action at a time can look looney? pipoman Aug 2014 #102

Woudn't the looney fringe be the idiots flashing their guns? (nt) stone space Aug 2014 #106

Asked and answered in post 102 directly above... pipoman Aug 2014 #109

trying to get another GD post locked I see Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #2

You made someone mad with this post. ileus Aug 2014 #9

Wow, that surprises me Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #10

I don't think others' behavior gets anyone a timeout. Heidi Aug 2014 #30

I'm going to disagree, I have seen stalking and bettyellen Aug 2014 #48

yep. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #58

Also happens to Sea for what she posts HERVEPA Aug 2014 #59

True, but some of the hides were just ridiculous. People seem to be playing the percentages here, bettyellen Aug 2014 #89

bettyellen! BainsBane Aug 2014 #91

Thank you BB! bettyellen Aug 2014 #92

so what was so bad about the post Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #85

Open carry? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #3

It's all the rage among ammosexuals SecularMotion Aug 2014 #6

Do you consider pinkpistols.org to be an ammosexual organization? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #7

I consider the Pink Pistols to be a dead-in-the-water organization. Paladin Aug 2014 #39

Would you call them Ammo-sexuals? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #41

They're not a viable-enough group to warrant that term. (nt) Paladin Aug 2014 #44

Really? Define viable. Because the gun grabbers seem to apply the term without discretion. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #47

As long as we're talking about applying a term without discretion: Paladin Aug 2014 #50

At what threshhold is it OK to use slurs against a minority/group? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #55

Are you looking to cloak the pro-gun movement in some sort of minority status? Paladin Aug 2014 #62

Your oppression is duly noted and given all the credibility it in fact, warrants... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #66

What is a 'Gun Grabber?' AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #63

I'll define mine if you define yours. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #65

Basic gun safety? AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #71

Outlaw the NRA? pipoman Aug 2014 #103

Yes AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #105

It is a civil rights/liberties advocacy group. .. pipoman Aug 2014 #108

It is a paranoid AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #121

Lobby for gun makers, eh? pipoman Aug 2014 #122

Yes AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #123

The NRA is a civil rights organization??? stone space Aug 2014 #127

You do know that each amendment of the BoR pipoman Aug 2014 #131

Not the 2nd. (nt) stone space Aug 2014 #132

lol pipoman Aug 2014 #137

What's so funny? stone space Aug 2014 #138

I've heard it said, pipoman Aug 2014 #139

Guns don't have civil rights. (nt) stone space Aug 2014 #140

Like I said in #129.... pipoman Aug 2014 #141

I will respect your right to ignorance. (nt) stone space Aug 2014 #142

printing presses don't have civil rights!1!! 1! lol pipoman Aug 2014 #143

That's what it means LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #74

How often are fully automatic weapons used in crime? Jenoch Aug 2014 #82

Anyone who believes automatic weapons and pipoman Aug 2014 #104

Big deal. badtoworse Aug 2014 #4

That's funny. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #5

guns scare people when they're not going about killing people. ileus Aug 2014 #8

No. Ignorant gun cultists/promoters like these fools should concern everybody, especially liberals. Hoyt Aug 2014 #60

Interesting comments from someone who claims he was a criminal Lurks Often Aug 2014 #73

Once again Lurk, you need to read things in context. In any event, gun cultists shouldn't get a pass Hoyt Aug 2014 #75

So sorry gun ownership makes your profession so difficult for you to practice Lurks Often Aug 2014 #77

you are so hardcore LOL, I bet you drink wine straight without a chaser! snooper2 Aug 2014 #93

I bet you drink wine while toting or fondling your gunz at home. Hoyt Aug 2014 #94

no gunz, I use a 32cc pole saw for protection while drinking miller light snooper2 Aug 2014 #95

Carrying a knife like that is illegal in many states, yet almost any yahoo can tote a gun. Hoyt Aug 2014 #96

you avoided my question, but here is a knife you can use snooper2 Aug 2014 #97

Did you fall asleep? snooper2 Aug 2014 #100

Good post trumad Aug 2014 #11

FYI Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #13

I should have been more specific... trumad Aug 2014 #14

That got my attention as well. Trolling since 2001. That's some funny shit. 11 Bravo Aug 2014 #98

I am a gun owner, and was not offended. riqster Aug 2014 #20

OK. What happens when they come out? badtoworse Aug 2014 #15

He won't. trumad Aug 2014 #19

She's getting criticisms here that I doubt she would if she fit the FEMEN-approved' redqueen Aug 2014 #16

+100 JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #26

Good job Gothmog Aug 2014 #12

Back in the 90's, the Lesbian Avengers did a topless protest... riqster Aug 2014 #17

DU's ammosexuals don't seem to like this OP. Looks like this was an effective protest. DanTex Aug 2014 #18

I suppose being an irritation is all you have left aikoaiko Aug 2014 #21

Well, I live in NY now. They just passed a law that has (the few) ammosexuals up here pretty upset. DanTex Aug 2014 #24

Is that the law that upsate sheriffs have said they won't enforce? badtoworse Aug 2014 #25

Might be. We've definitely got some Cliven Bundy types in parts of the state. DanTex Aug 2014 #27

Downstate is liberal, the rest of the state is not badtoworse Aug 2014 #31

Depends on how far upstate, but yeah. Fortunately I live downstate. DanTex Aug 2014 #32

That's not true SecularMotion Aug 2014 #37

How's the SAFE Act doing in those cities? badtoworse Aug 2014 #43

I hear NYC gun violence has gone up since stop and frisk was forbidden hack89 Aug 2014 #33

DeBlasio was my first NYC election, and I think he's great. DanTex Aug 2014 #35

So you don't like Bloomberg's gun control positions? hack89 Aug 2014 #36

I do, as does the majority of the Democratic party, including Bill DeBlasio. DanTex Aug 2014 #72

I actually support most of Bloomberg's positions hack89 Aug 2014 #79

You are an NRA supporter, one of the most despicable right-wing organizations DanTex Aug 2014 #80

Yet I vote for real Democrats hack89 Aug 2014 #81

Yeah, you keep saying that... DanTex Aug 2014 #83

So supporting gun control with only two exception is RW? hack89 Aug 2014 #84

The 7 round limit as already been struck down in court Lurks Often Aug 2014 #40

+1000 Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #111

Oh No You Dint! NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #61

That being the case, it seems as though 'Gun Grabbers' are as rare and mythical as Welfare Queens... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #67

I wouldn't say mythical as much as extinguished. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #69

What an odd article... 8_Point Aug 2014 #22

Yep... Agschmid Aug 2014 #23

Open-carry advocates are useful Matrosov Aug 2014 #28

+100. (nt) Paladin Aug 2014 #42

I am all for open carry. The more the loons show themselves off the better in the long run Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #113

This is probably more effective: Gore1FL Aug 2014 #29

Excellent! stone space Aug 2014 #107

Enjoy your interaction with the police and your new criminal record Lurks Often Aug 2014 #110

I'm not going to waste any time around these armed nutcases. stone space Aug 2014 #112

That is entirely your choice and right, Lurks Often Aug 2014 #114

You seem intent on jailing people who run from gun nuts. (nt) stone space Aug 2014 #115

Nice try, but fail Lurks Often Aug 2014 #116

Sorry, but when I see an armed gun nut in a resturaunt, I run. stone space Aug 2014 #124

You make all the excuses and rationalizations you want, Lurks Often Aug 2014 #125

You are attempting to criminalize... stone space Aug 2014 #126

Another fail from you Lurks Often Aug 2014 #128

No resturaunt owner is going to prosecute its own customers... stone space Aug 2014 #129

I'm thinking you are the one with the fantasy issue Lurks Often Aug 2014 #130

I wouldn't return without a clear policy statement... stone space Aug 2014 #133

I question your grasp on on reality Lurks Often Aug 2014 #134

Calling the police ranks second... stone space Aug 2014 #135

I'm thinking you'll be the one to find out one way or the other Lurks Often Aug 2014 #136

This is fucking hilarious, in a good way. Best use of a topless protest I have ever seen. MadrasT Aug 2014 #34

Agreed. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #49

Yawn, just another gun control extremist Lurks Often Aug 2014 #38

I think her actions will make a difference. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #46

No, the open carry jerks will keep that status. (nt) Paladin Aug 2014 #51

Have The Death Threats Started? otohara Aug 2014 #53

She isn't even worth threatening Lurks Often Aug 2014 #70

I unfortunately don't see that as being effective since some of them would consider that a reward. Xyzse Aug 2014 #45

agree, 100% nt user_name Aug 2014 #57

Here is coverage of the "protest". oneshooter Aug 2014 #52

More boobs, less guns liberal N proud Aug 2014 #54

She's never heard of "Liquor Guns" in Uvalde, TX. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #56

"Ammosexual"- any way you play it that term has homophobic overtones Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #64

Heterosexuals Matrosov Aug 2014 #68

that is nonsense. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #78

Every line those open carry guys are saying BainsBane Aug 2014 #76

Would leering be OK in this situation? badtoworse Aug 2014 #86

As long as it isn't a "male gaze," don't knocker it. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #87

So it's OK to leer as long as you're being offended,... badtoworse Aug 2014 #88

This thread is interesting. redqueen Aug 2014 #117

I agree; it's very interesting. badtoworse Aug 2014 #118

LOL redqueen Aug 2014 #119

You're no fun. badtoworse Aug 2014 #120

This still hangin' around? Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #144

My takeaway after reading this thread Crunchy Frog Aug 2014 #145