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In reply to the discussion: "My Head Exploded When Obama Sanctimoniously Said, 'We Tortured Some Folks'" [View all]OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)88. These "patriots" were just doing their job.
They did their job so well that one of their customers slammed his head against a wall repeatedly to show his appreciation of their efforts.
One of youngest Guantánamo prisoner released
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/paper/index.php?article=4282
Nineteen-year-old Mohamed Jawad has set foot in Afghanistan after seven years in detention making him one of the youngest prisoners to be released from Guantánamo. He is set to sue the US Government in the next couple of months for inhumane treatment and torture in addition to being a minor in detention.
~snip~
Jawad claims his captors tortured him and other prisoners, deprived them of food and sleep. He has described having his hands tied behind his back and being forced to eat by bending over and putting his mouth into a plate of food. He received substantial abuse, including the frequent flier treatment which is a form of torture where the victim is shifted from cell to cell. Mohamed was shifted through 152 locations in a weeks time, staying a maximum of 2 hours and 55 seconds in each location.
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/paper/index.php?article=4282
Nineteen-year-old Mohamed Jawad has set foot in Afghanistan after seven years in detention making him one of the youngest prisoners to be released from Guantánamo. He is set to sue the US Government in the next couple of months for inhumane treatment and torture in addition to being a minor in detention.
~snip~
Jawad claims his captors tortured him and other prisoners, deprived them of food and sleep. He has described having his hands tied behind his back and being forced to eat by bending over and putting his mouth into a plate of food. He received substantial abuse, including the frequent flier treatment which is a form of torture where the victim is shifted from cell to cell. Mohamed was shifted through 152 locations in a weeks time, staying a maximum of 2 hours and 55 seconds in each location.
Government Seeks To Continue Detaining Mohammed Jawad At Guantánamo Despite Lack Of Evidence
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/government-seeks-continue-detaining-mohammed-jawad-guantanamo-despite-lack-evidenc
NEW YORK After admitting to a federal judge that Guantánamo detainee and American Civil Liberties Union client Mohammed Jawad had been tortured and illegally detained for nearly seven years, the Obama administration today asked the court for permission to continue to detain Jawad while it decides whether to bring a criminal case against him. The request, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, comes after U.S. District Court Judge Ellen S. Huvelle berated government lawyers last week for their inadequate case against Jawad.
Last fall, a military judge in Jawad's Guantánamo military commission proceeding threw out the bulk of the evidence against him finding that it was obtained through torture. Despite that ruling, the Obama administration continued to rely on those same statements in Jawad's habeas corpus challenge before Judge Huvelle until last week when it said it would no longer rely on that evidence. The Afghan Attorney General recently sent a letter to the U.S. government demanding Jawad's return and suggesting he was as young as 12 when he was captured in Afghanistan and illegally rendered from that country nearly seven years ago.
Following his 2002 arrest in Afghanistan for allegedly throwing a grenade at two U.S. soldiers and their interpreter, Jawad was subjected to repeated torture and other mistreatment and to a systematic program of harsh and highly coercive interrogations designed to break him physically and mentally. Jawad tried to commit suicide in his cell by slamming his head repeatedly against the wall.
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/government-seeks-continue-detaining-mohammed-jawad-guantanamo-despite-lack-evidenc
NEW YORK After admitting to a federal judge that Guantánamo detainee and American Civil Liberties Union client Mohammed Jawad had been tortured and illegally detained for nearly seven years, the Obama administration today asked the court for permission to continue to detain Jawad while it decides whether to bring a criminal case against him. The request, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, comes after U.S. District Court Judge Ellen S. Huvelle berated government lawyers last week for their inadequate case against Jawad.
Last fall, a military judge in Jawad's Guantánamo military commission proceeding threw out the bulk of the evidence against him finding that it was obtained through torture. Despite that ruling, the Obama administration continued to rely on those same statements in Jawad's habeas corpus challenge before Judge Huvelle until last week when it said it would no longer rely on that evidence. The Afghan Attorney General recently sent a letter to the U.S. government demanding Jawad's return and suggesting he was as young as 12 when he was captured in Afghanistan and illegally rendered from that country nearly seven years ago.
Following his 2002 arrest in Afghanistan for allegedly throwing a grenade at two U.S. soldiers and their interpreter, Jawad was subjected to repeated torture and other mistreatment and to a systematic program of harsh and highly coercive interrogations designed to break him physically and mentally. Jawad tried to commit suicide in his cell by slamming his head repeatedly against the wall.
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"My Head Exploded When Obama Sanctimoniously Said, 'We Tortured Some Folks'" [View all]
WilliamPitt
Aug 2014
OP
Who the hell is Frank Schaeffer? And Huffington loads a person's computer up
truedelphi
Aug 2014
#172
How difficult do you think it would have been for Obama to not say what he said?
cui bono
Aug 2014
#167
Bush in hiding? He's out there giving awards to Derek Jeter. There's talk of him becoming
Demit
Aug 2014
#227
A lack of political will has long been the bane of this Administration. Now a lack of ...
Scuba
Aug 2014
#223
Admit unequivocally that it wrong and that they were not "just doing their jobs"
alarimer
Aug 2014
#74
Obama's hands are NOT tied. He can do whatever he wants to do and frankly, he is required by law
Welibs
Aug 2014
#94
I would start prosecuting those that physically did the torturing and work up the line.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#140
You better believe those words were chosen with the utmost care and they still failed. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#139
By those standards, no crime should ever be prosecuted. After all,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#148
I definitely got that impression also, but we are being told we are 'making stuff up'
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#36
There are some things even the most ardent supporter of any politician should not be
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#71
I'd like to know what he supposedly meant by the sanctimonious remark
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#149
When you look forward, you don't have to worry about the consequences of your own actions.
CrispyQ
Aug 2014
#13
The government political puppet show is entertainment for the ruling corporations and 1%.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#30
Interesting times we live in, as I came to the conclusion that nothing will get better, ever.
Amonester
Aug 2014
#41
The reason that the monsters aren't being tried is that too many Democrats signed off on it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2014
#39
If he doesn't do something about it, he IS responsible for future administrations
sibelian
Aug 2014
#213
That word used by pols makes my skin crawl. Who can forget Bush post 9-11 using folks to describe
snagglepuss
Aug 2014
#55
The only part of the Constitution that many seem to care about is the 2nd Amendment.
Contrary1
Aug 2014
#68
It's a German word meaning "People" with a connotation of "Common People" in the U.S.
Zen Democrat
Aug 2014
#64
Sorry, Frank Church is dead and the Republicans are controlling the House at the moment. n/t
PoliticAverse
Aug 2014
#203
No, the real problem is, you, just like the right wingers who have been pissed off about the torture
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#110
Well, you are both expressing disingenious outrage over the President stating a fact regarding...
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#114
'Fact'? You think it's a 'fact' that the torturers were 'real patriots'?
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#117
Then you ought to read beyond the titles of threads before responding to them
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#128
Not only that but apparently if Bush can't be prosecuted then they all should get
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#137
Well that's special that you've accepted it. For some of us it's harder than just rolling over.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#144
I'm not dumping my principles. I'm just an adult who accepts that the world doesn't always work...
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#152
No, there's nothing about it being people "doing what they were basically told to do"
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#141
Making things up won't help you convince anyone with a brain or conscience (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#147
So the "real problem" is Will? As if he is the only one with this opinion.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#145
I'll throw you in that boat too. You folks are just looking for something to get pissed off about.
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#154
If that makes life easier for you, feel free. Much easier than dealing with the truth.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#156
And you understand "reality" while philosophers have been struggling with it for centuries.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#207
he's just looking for the kind of attention he had during the bush admin on DU....
dionysus
Aug 2014
#210
I say "folks" all the time. I grew up in So. WV, its just one of those words I'm use to I guess.
phleshdef
Aug 2014
#123
Annnnnd you are totally off the point. Apparently intentionally. It isn't the word.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#161
willfully pretending that this an a regionalist assault on your choice of pronouns...
bobduca
Aug 2014
#183
Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. President is a scoundrel on this subject
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#115
I wanted to write what I thought of the President's speech but this article did it much better.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#135
http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20101027/lotfi_morteza20101027125134403.jpg
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2014
#158
http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/iraq-torture-dogs-thumb-tm.jpg
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2014
#159
Hey, look! it's some folks! Dead, tortured folks. Dead and tortured in our name.
myrna minx
Aug 2014
#173
torture, wall street criminals, spying, offshoring, H1B, patriot act, Israeli violence
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#195