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In reply to the discussion: On torture: I Trust President Obama [View all]DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)70. Yes, Michigan, there HAVE been studies.
Google Scholar can be your friend if you're actually interested.
Meanwhile, some handy information from "Erroneous Assumptions: Popular Belief in the Effectiveness of Torture Interrogation," by Ronnie Janoff-Bulman, in Peace & Conflict: Journal of Peace Psychology, 13(4), November 2007, p 429435.
...experienced military interrogators believe that torture and abuse should unquestionably be avoided. In the words of one senior Army interrogator, Beyond the moral imperative, the competent interrogator avoids torture because it is counter-productive and unreliable
. In my two decades of experience as an interrogator, I know of no competent interrogator that would resort to torture. Not one (Bennett, 2006). In their recent Statement on In terrogation Practices (Bauer, 2006), 20 Army interrogators and interrogation technicians, representing over 200 years of interrogation service and experience (from Vietnam to Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, and Iraq), unequivocally contradicted the proposition that torture is necessary to win the War on Terror. Recently released Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) reports make it clear that the FBI, too (in contrast to the Central Intelligence Agency), objected to the use of torture and regarded it as an unreliable and ineffective interrogation method (Dratel, 2006; also see Suskind, 2006).
The Army Field Manual for Human Intelligence Collection (Field Manual 2-22.3; 2006) provides a long list and discussion of approach techniques, all of which are based on the establishment of rapport between the interrogator and the source. These are powerful techniques, and social psychology attests to their success (see Cialdini, 2001; also see McCauley, this issue). Successful interrogation is based on understanding the motives, needs, and self-perceptions of the other in the service of developing an effective strategy for eliciting intelligence information. Effective interrogation relies on persuasion strategies used in everyday life, but produced with greater forethought, applied with greater deliberation, and maintained in the context of objectivity and social control. (For recent accounts of successful interrogations in the War on Terror using these social influence techniques, see Bowden, 2007 and Suskind, 2006.)
The Army Field Manual for Human Intelligence Collection (Field Manual 2-22.3; 2006) provides a long list and discussion of approach techniques, all of which are based on the establishment of rapport between the interrogator and the source. These are powerful techniques, and social psychology attests to their success (see Cialdini, 2001; also see McCauley, this issue). Successful interrogation is based on understanding the motives, needs, and self-perceptions of the other in the service of developing an effective strategy for eliciting intelligence information. Effective interrogation relies on persuasion strategies used in everyday life, but produced with greater forethought, applied with greater deliberation, and maintained in the context of objectivity and social control. (For recent accounts of successful interrogations in the War on Terror using these social influence techniques, see Bowden, 2007 and Suskind, 2006.)
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Activist juries censor unpopular opinions; good juries enforce the community standards
Michigander_Life
Aug 2014
#18
If you honestly feel that you have been unfairly censored, I recommend you take it up in ATA.
Coventina
Aug 2014
#24
Not only that, but those "activist" juries almost always censor RW trolls, socks, and zombies
Zorra
Aug 2014
#56
"activist juries" Hm... that sounds familiar... where have I heard that before?
cui bono
Aug 2014
#88
There is no scenario under which War Crimes, and torture is a war crime, is ever
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#3
Torture teaches a very important lesson - people will say things to stop being tortured.
el_bryanto
Aug 2014
#4
"But that's why we elect our leaders -- to make those decisions"... To break the law!?
MrTriumph
Aug 2014
#9
That's not an apt comparison. One is a fictional character created by right wingers. The
Guy Whitey Corngood
Aug 2014
#20
The Oscar thread was a lot more enjoyable, and a lot less like turning over a rock. nt
Hekate
Aug 2014
#118
Sounds much like a rather melodramatic way of simply saying, "doing the right thing"
LanternWaste
Aug 2014
#19
No, we elect leaders to honor the constitution and make decisions in the framework of our laws and
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#21
that might be a tough moral quandary if that fantasy existed outside hollywood.
unblock
Aug 2014
#22
Wasn't this an episode of 24? Or was it a Bond movie? No wait, it was a Ben Affleck flick..
NightWatcher
Aug 2014
#28
Hey, it's a tough job that this guy has, working hard under enormous pressure and he's a real ...
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#116
I don't know. But I'd trust activist jury members on cyber torture. I mean
Guy Whitey Corngood
Aug 2014
#53
How much torture do we have to rationalize with hypotheticals to sacrifice morality.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2014
#62
Oh I suppose you'd be happy with President McCain being in charge of torturing some folks?
Capt. Obvious
Aug 2014
#73
I don't trust anyone who would torture or authorize torture....or excuse it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2014
#75
"We elect leaders like President Obama to make the most difficult decisions..."?!
mr blur
Aug 2014
#84
Interesting that we had the same hypotheticals come up before Obama was POTUS,
cui bono
Aug 2014
#89
"he will not put previous administration members on trial to satisfy people's anger"
Demit
Aug 2014
#98
Not only that, but if you think Obama SHOULDN'T be trusted to use torture responsibly
sibelian
Aug 2014
#99