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kas125

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12. Only if you're a "real patriot."

Reply to Dragonfli (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 04:07 PM

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No Exceptional Circumstances Whatsoever... May Be Invoked as a Justification of Torture [View all] bigtree Aug 2014 OP

But..but..what if your neighbor's parakeet had a nuclear bomb hidden in his cage and... Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #1

Seems pretty damn clear. n/t TDale313 Aug 2014 #2

shouldn't be surprised, but I am a little bigtree Aug 2014 #3

Some of those who support it have watched too much TV. zeemike Aug 2014 #11

That's why 24 was created to begin with. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #14

Yes. RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #19

We are immersed in it. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #20

Agreed. But for the most part, I am not. RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #25

I still have some trust in the Christian Science Monitor, bvar22 Aug 2014 #40

Yes! The 4400 was showcasing waterboarding too. Lars39 Aug 2014 #22

As a society we cannot morph Enthusiast Aug 2014 #24

Interesting. Same has been said of Zero Dark Thirty merrily Aug 2014 #56

It always amazed me that no one Jack Bauer tortured ever lied to him. tclambert Aug 2014 #46

You said it! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #13

+ a zillion truebluegreen Aug 2014 #4

What if you are working hard and under enormous pressure, can that be invoked as justification? n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #5

Yes, but only if you are a patriot /nt Dragonfli Aug 2014 #6

Only if you're a "real patriot." kas125 Aug 2014 #12

Well then, Stryder Aug 2014 #30

K & R democrank Aug 2014 #7

Thank you bigtree annabanana Aug 2014 #8

Including fear malaise Aug 2014 #9

yes bigtree Aug 2014 #10

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #15

Oh Plez! No one here wants to excuse torture. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #33

Remember Bush's guys never tortured anyone. They told us so. LiberalArkie Aug 2014 #16

Good point, the Geneva Convention doesn't say "enhanced interrogation" is illegal. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #35

Please include John Yoo in that list. L0oniX Aug 2014 #38

Absolutely. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #39

DURec leftstreet Aug 2014 #17

K&R Solly Mack Aug 2014 #18

*Every one* needs to go back and study the Torture Memos and how Bushco made torture legal. Lars39 Aug 2014 #21

Thank you so much bigtree for hammering this issue. johnnyreb Aug 2014 #23

Ditto. Bigtree and I don't see eye to eye on many things, but on this we're in complete agreement. RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #27

K&R ReRe Aug 2014 #26

Kicked & Recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #28

Don't tell "Mr. Constitutional Scholar" blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #29

A fucking men Bandit Aug 2014 #31

american exceptionalism noiretextatique Aug 2014 #32

knr n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2014 #34

Well, except for scared patriots. Scuba Aug 2014 #36

How very, very quaint!! stillwaiting Aug 2014 #37

DURec. bvar22 Aug 2014 #41

Scared and a Patriot bobduca Aug 2014 #50

K&R! DeSwiss Aug 2014 #42

The United States signed, but has never ratified the Convention. n/t cheapdate Aug 2014 #43

More bullshit to support your rationalization of torture. OnyxCollie Aug 2014 #48

Swing and a miss! cheapdate Aug 2014 #49

The US ratified the UN Convention in 1994. merrily Aug 2014 #55

Please also see Replies 53, 51 and 55. merrily Aug 2014 #54

We signed and ratified the UN Convention Against Torture, though. merrily Aug 2014 #53

In my defense, cheapdate Aug 2014 #58

It was not a point of fact. Facts are true. merrily Aug 2014 #60

Here's where I looked : I looked at the source link provided in the OP. cheapdate Aug 2014 #61

Okay, but I am not attacking you or requiring you to defend yourself. merrily Aug 2014 #62

I understand that you were'nt attacking me. cheapdate Aug 2014 #63

Dude, let it go already. merrily Aug 2014 #64

I might. cheapdate Aug 2014 #65

Proud to be the 100th rec. ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #44

What if they have a dog that barks ALL night Calista241 Aug 2014 #45

K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #47

To be fair, we did merrily Aug 2014 #51

Thank you bigtree for being on top of this issue! neverforget Aug 2014 #52

"We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality" PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #57

What if it's just "folks"? Torturers, torturees... Can't we just let bygones be bygones? lumberjack_jeff Aug 2014 #59