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In reply to the discussion: "My Head Exploded When Obama Sanctimoniously Said, 'We Tortured Some Folks'" [View all]rhett o rick
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I totally agree with a few comments.
I don't know what the president was going for with the "We tortured some folks", but it failed on all levels. We torture quite a few people, humans, some of which were innocent men, women and even children. We brutalized them in many sick and perverted methods, killing some and ruining all of them.
"Obama saying that a line had been crossed was a nice gesture." I can't tell if the author is being facitious or not, but "nice" isn't what I would label the gesture. Maybe calculated. I very much doubt that he was going for "nice".
The comments on the part of his speech on being sanctimonious were right on the money: "Don't get sanctimonious? They were under pressure? They're all good patriots? Are you kidding me?" I would only add "fucking" between "Are you" and "kidding me." But that's me.
"This is America. Go ahead, violate the Geneva Convention." That's right, fuck the Geneva Convention, it doesn't apply to the biggest bully on the block.
IMO the President did the worse thing possible. He clumsily tried to rationalize away the horrors of torture. He ignored it for 6 years, during which time some held out the hope he would eventually come out strong against the horrors of torture. Now he has dashed those dreams. It's very unlikely that he will issue stronger words in the future.