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In reply to the discussion: When do we start calling this a 'cover-up' by the Obama White House? [View all]bigtree
(94,639 posts)15. there should be an investigation of the Brennan CIA's actions regarding the Senate investigation
. . . and there are a handful of serious laws involved in the question of their conduct.
How do we know that the CIA was 'acting outside the law and out of the President's control?' Is that an established fact?
Was this answered at all, by anyone? The CIA, at one point, told the Senate committee that the WH had ordered the removal of files. Is this true?
DiFi:
In May of 2010, the committee staff noticed that certain documents that had been provided for the committees review were no longer accessible. Staff approached the CIA personnel at the offsite location, who initially denied that documents had been removed. CIA personnel then blamed information technology personnel, who were almost all contractors, for removing the documents themselves without direction or authority. And then the CIA stated that the removal of the documents was ordered by the White House. When the committee approached the White House, the White House denied giving the CIA any such order.
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I suppose the severity of a cover-up does depend on what's actually being obscured
bigtree
Aug 2014
#6
what about something along the lines he expressed Friday in partial defense of the Bush activity?
bigtree
Aug 2014
#65
Yes, participating in a cover-up of war crimes that are widely known is the best way to ...
Scuba
Aug 2014
#76
I don't think anyone would be seriously talking about the President's responsibility in any of that
bigtree
Aug 2014
#81
Torture is no more a "political decision" than molesting a child. The fact that it was systemic
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#54
I'm not looking for a position trying to mount vapid defenses of some of the worst of the dark ages
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#67
Your job is far more important. Politicians manipulate and obfuscate and do whatever
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#26
there should be an investigation of the Brennan CIA's actions regarding the Senate investigation
bigtree
Aug 2014
#15
He can prove that by firing Brennen, and Clapper and all the other Republicans
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#27
I hope you are wrong about Obama's knowledge but it seems I'm never quite cynical enough.
pa28
Aug 2014
#40
We don't know what the President knew before about the CIA's activiities. But we know
sabrina 1
Aug 2014
#60
Weak. That isn't even logically consistent. It was a republican administration
morningfog
Aug 2014
#34
Seems to me like you are on the wrong side of the torture issue. And calling people
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#68
At this point, no I don't. (to answer the question in the title of this response)
Raine1967
Aug 2014
#29
Some are circling the wagons so hard that if called on will oppose all they fought for
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#36
You and Sid with the same talking points. Sadly, that's all you got is calling people names.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#69
So what's your point? Are you saying you apologize for Cheney's torture program?
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#70
If the release of the "executive summary" of torture is delayed any longer, we need to contact
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#83
When do we start calling this a (redacted) by the (redacted) (redacted)?"
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2014
#74
It has been the entire time, hence the "look forward" aka look the other way
Corruption Inc
Aug 2014
#85