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In reply to the discussion: Chris Hedges: Why Israel Lies [View all]happyslug
(14,779 posts)144. But we are looking at 5 million, maybe 10 million people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee
Worse, most of the Palestinians that migrated to the US were Christians (I meet one in Collage in the 1970s). They are as anti-Israeli as any Moslem, but having a slightly higher level of Income were able to move to the US. Most were NOT refugees, they came from the West Bank.
So we are talking of 5 MILLION people as Refugees not the 137,450 Jews the US took in in 1952 (From your report) or the 58,179 that came to the US and were granted asylum in 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee#Jordan
The PLO estimates there are 10.7 Million Palestinians:
http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ochaopt_atlas_opt_general_december2011.pdf
The 5 Million in Arab Countries, include 2 million in Jordan and another 1/2 million in Lebanon. the rest are in various Persian Gulf nations where they are tolerated as laborers not as permanent residents.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.577997
As to the West Bank, it is presently divided into four types of lands:
A - Under Palestinian Control
B - Under joint Palestinians and Israeli Control
C - Under Exclusive Israeli control:
------Jerusalem, annexed into Israel.

http://rahimk.tumblr.com/post/69484087110/mandela-is-gone-but-the-struggle-is-still-here
As you can see MOST of the West Bank in under Israeli Control, even through over 300,000 Palestinian live in Area C:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.577997
Thus it would be a tremendous influx of people into which country takes in these Palestinians. Most countries will reject such an influx, and given the policy of the Palestinians themselves, they first choice is to go to their ancestral homes in present day Israel.
Worse, most of the Palestinians that migrated to the US were Christians (I meet one in Collage in the 1970s). They are as anti-Israeli as any Moslem, but having a slightly higher level of Income were able to move to the US. Most were NOT refugees, they came from the West Bank.
So we are talking of 5 MILLION people as Refugees not the 137,450 Jews the US took in in 1952 (From your report) or the 58,179 that came to the US and were granted asylum in 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee#Jordan
The PLO estimates there are 10.7 Million Palestinians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Palestinian_territories
The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) estimated Palestinians at mid year 2009 as 10.7 million persons as follows: 3.9 million in the Palestinian Territory (36.6%), 1.2 million (11.5%) in Israel; 5.0 million in Arab countries (46.2%), 0.6 million in foreign countries (5.7%)
The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) estimated Palestinians at mid year 2009 as 10.7 million persons as follows: 3.9 million in the Palestinian Territory (36.6%), 1.2 million (11.5%) in Israel; 5.0 million in Arab countries (46.2%), 0.6 million in foreign countries (5.7%)
http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ochaopt_atlas_opt_general_december2011.pdf
The 5 Million in Arab Countries, include 2 million in Jordan and another 1/2 million in Lebanon. the rest are in various Persian Gulf nations where they are tolerated as laborers not as permanent residents.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.577997
As to the West Bank, it is presently divided into four types of lands:
A - Under Palestinian Control
B - Under joint Palestinians and Israeli Control
C - Under Exclusive Israeli control:
------Jerusalem, annexed into Israel.

http://rahimk.tumblr.com/post/69484087110/mandela-is-gone-but-the-struggle-is-still-here
As you can see MOST of the West Bank in under Israeli Control, even through over 300,000 Palestinian live in Area C:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.577997
Thus it would be a tremendous influx of people into which country takes in these Palestinians. Most countries will reject such an influx, and given the policy of the Palestinians themselves, they first choice is to go to their ancestral homes in present day Israel.
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The De-Facto American rules of journalism that Chuck Todd openly acknowledged.
Uncle Joe
Aug 2014
#15
What a load of BS. The whole point of journalism is to seek and expose the truth.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2014
#68
For access: "IDF Censor Tells NY Times It Cannot Report It Killed 2nd Lt. Hadar Goldin"
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2014
#132
What does the murder of 10 year old boys have to do with Palestinian terrorism?
The Second Stone
Aug 2014
#41
Criminal prosecution in the Hague for crimes against humanity for the people issuing the orders
The Second Stone
Aug 2014
#85
The rule had been even before adoption of that resolution, return to home country UNLESS...
happyslug
Aug 2014
#120
I notice you ignored my comment about what to do about the Palestinians Refugees.
happyslug
Aug 2014
#142
It's a real mess. Some of them could come here. But we could not take in 10 million refugees.
JDPriestly
Aug 2014
#148
But without the immoral Occupation of Palestinian territory by the Israelis,
truedelphi
Aug 2014
#84
You are speaking as though the foundation of what I am talking about was a moral foundation.
truedelphi
Aug 2014
#91
"...drones overhead made us super paranoid that anywhere we went, we might get blown to bits..."
Electric Monk
Aug 2014
#57
"Israel would never..." Okay. Let's look at this from the exactly opposite point of view.
DetlefK
Aug 2014
#31
I think the Nazi comparison is a subtle form of irony on the author's part. n/t
A Simple Game
Aug 2014
#40
Your position is that the comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany is an apt one?
oberliner
Aug 2014
#103
Most of the world sees it that way. Israel is despised around the world
The Second Stone
Aug 2014
#115
Always demonize and dehumanize your supposed enemy. Typical tact throughout all history.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#18
"in the uncommon cases when news of atrocities penetrates to the wider public"
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#75
Thanks for this, I am checking with my Jewish friend, who is aligned with J Street
randys1
Aug 2014
#82
If he's lying, then the IDF is the most poorly trained, incompetent, bumbling
countryjake
Aug 2014
#104
he was reprimanded by his employer, the New York Times for speaking out against the Iraq War
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#105
Little secret. Most journalists spin stories toward a certain point of view.....
marmar
Aug 2014
#108
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW!! - But, I have no idea what the poster you are addressing is talking about
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#122
Israel lies because they are hiring US political consultants expert at manipulating
whereisjustice
Aug 2014
#136