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MADem

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26. I'm not admonishing you for taking the side of the supposedly needy.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 11:36 AM
Aug 2014

I'm admonishing you for your very own "father knows best" attitude towards MM's post. I mean, really, you have the nerve to admonish the guy with

8. Who cares about your strategy for giving to DUers who reach out for help?


and you expect anyone to care about YOUR feelings after that wet turd of a post? Who's playing daddy, here?

I think you read too much into what you believe is a person's "tone" -- but you just might be dead wrong about that. I didn't see him "infer" that you don't know what you're doing. I think you "inferred" that all by yourself. That's your fault, not his. He's talking about his POV and soliciting comment. Your response is to tell him to STFU, basically--because you mistakenly believe he's talking about YOU and you think that no one should "care" about what he says.

Then, you double down--you don't like MM's "lecturing" -- but you have no problem lecturing the rest of us with your view about how we should think/feel:

I think DUers are good enough judges of what is a scam and what is not without lectures on how everyone else is doing it wrong.


What about those of us who might not agree with what "you" think? The world does not revolve around YOUR opinions, either.

The person with the "tone" problem is you. This is a discussion board. The object is to discuss topics that people bring up. If you don't want to participate in the conversation, skip the thread. If you don't like the poster's tone, ignore the poster. Or don't. But if you don't, don't try to shut people up and then complain about their "tone." It just comes off as hollow and false if you do.

If you don't like his attitude--and you indicated that you did not--put him on ignore. Then everyone's happy.

When I respond to a post with which I disagree, I know full well I'm kicking it and it will result in further discussion. Your comments about "lecturing or implying" are hostile, frankly. How would you like it if a thread you started was greeted with "I don't like you lecturing or implying to me" about whatever?

You're the one being rude in this exchange, IMO. It's possible to disagree without being disagreeable, but your "You're judgmental, I don't like your tone, DUers don't need to listen to you, you're lecturing, who cares what you think" approach to conversation is personal and frankly, rude. All your comments are about MM, personally, not about the issue he raised, which was verifying the validity of a request for help--as if no one, EVER, anywhere, ever tried to scam people out of their money; like this is unthinkable, and "good liberals" would never do such a thing. The truth of the matter is, that people all over the world do this kind of thing--we've had posts here on DU about waitresses falsely claiming orientation discrimination and getting tens of thousands in donations from those "soft hearted liberals." Everyone's heard a story or ten about someone who faked cancer, or worse, shaved their kid's head and faked it by proxy. People DO lie. People DO prey on other people. To start a thread to talk about it is NOT a crime, and your "inferences" that MM is somehow a lecturing, evil scold for bringing it up and asking for input is just wrong.

I hope I've articulated my POV with sufficient clarity. Please let me know if there's any aspect that is unclear.

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Everyone can send some money to me! I'm going to sell my truck soon snooper2 Aug 2014 #1
Fix It Again Tony! MineralMan Aug 2014 #7
It isn't 1984 anymore :) snooper2 Aug 2014 #10
Or 1959, either. I owned a 1959 Fiat 600 of that vintage. MineralMan Aug 2014 #11
Another OP on this? DUers have always been generous to other DUers sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #2
plus 10000000 Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #4
We all have different strategies for giving. MineralMan Aug 2014 #5
so you donated to IronGate's daughter? CreekDog Aug 2014 #59
^5! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #64
When a DUer offer to help me we arranged for her to pay the bill directly to the company I was in jwirr Aug 2014 #3
I think that's an excellent idea, and shows legitimacy. MineralMan Aug 2014 #6
Who cares about your strategy for giving to DUers who reach out for help? ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #8
I don't know who cares. MineralMan Aug 2014 #9
You're welcome. nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #12
Don't kick the thread if you don't like the topic...that's a "strategy." nt MADem Aug 2014 #13
i don't care anything about whether or not I'm kicking a thread. I said what I ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #14
I don't have a problem with the OP expressing his views. I think he has a point. MADem Aug 2014 #15
Please see my edits. And, btw, ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #16
It's difficult to measure "tone" in Internet posts. MineralMan Aug 2014 #18
Whether you realize it or not, sometimes you come off as lecturing. However, I ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #20
I'm aware of that, because people have told me that. MineralMan Aug 2014 #21
MineralMan Polly Hennessey Aug 2014 #61
That's kind of you to say. Thanks. MineralMan Aug 2014 #63
Your tone is fine BainsBane Aug 2014 #38
Thanks. I really appreciate that. MineralMan Aug 2014 #39
I'm not admonishing you for taking the side of the supposedly needy. MADem Aug 2014 #26
WHOA! Damn that's a lot of admonishment! I stand corrected and have learned from you ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #27
"But since what I think is wrong, I guess I should apologize for having any opinion on the matter at MADem Aug 2014 #33
I never took it as MM was posting directly to ME. That's just ridiculous. It was ME however ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #36
You certainly responded to him as if you did. MADem Aug 2014 #41
I'm sorry you so upset at my comments. I did apologize to him after you and him ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #50
I am not at all upset. Not sure why you would think that. MADem Aug 2014 #51
It's not about me wanting to have the last word. But, in order to move on, there must be one. I ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #54
I appreciate your comments. MineralMan Aug 2014 #17
For me, your strategy only applies to those whom have a very low post-count or ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #19
OK. As I said in my OP, everyone has his or her own method of deciding MineralMan Aug 2014 #22
I generally give to organizations I have dealt with personally in some fashion. MADem Aug 2014 #28
I have some favorite local organizations that have proven MineralMan Aug 2014 #31
It looks like we have similar giving strategies. nt MADem Aug 2014 #34
I saw that original post... TDale313 Aug 2014 #37
It was something about posts on Discussionist that MineralMan Aug 2014 #42
Thanks. TDale313 Aug 2014 #46
the poster's previous incarnation on DU was also banned CreekDog Aug 2014 #60
Lots of that going around, it seems. MineralMan Aug 2014 #62
You having a bad day Chisolm? onecent Aug 2014 #23
Nope, I'm having a great day so far, as a matter of fact. Slept good, just had a great home ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #29
A little respect for a longstanding and decent DUer would be nice malaise Aug 2014 #30
I respect you. Also, I've been a DUer for a couple of years longer than MM. No, ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #32
LOL malaise Aug 2014 #35
"Still MM is a great DUer in my book and he's entitled to his view on the matter." ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #40
Agreed malaise Aug 2014 #43
And that's why you and I have always been quite chummy... ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #58
Actually, my thread was prompted by a different request for MineralMan Aug 2014 #47
Thank you, I was not aware of a hidden post, though I did read the beginings of trumad's thread and ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #52
Not a problem. I do not take replies to my posts personally. MineralMan Aug 2014 #55
I think it's a good strategy cwydro Aug 2014 #44
I'm chill. And I have apologized for coming across acerbically. That was not my mood when I ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #49
You do, since you read it. roody Aug 2014 #56
Yep, you got me! ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #57
These are good tips MM. nt TBF Aug 2014 #24
Thanks. I hope they help people with their decisions. MineralMan Aug 2014 #25
I appreciate the post. cwydro Aug 2014 #45
Thanks for your reply. MineralMan Aug 2014 #48
Related thread--pretty much the same topic, too... MADem Aug 2014 #53
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