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77. Funny how a "Liberal" will suddenly buy Right Wing propaganda if it's anti-Palestinian.

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Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:11 PM

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President Jimmy Carter: "How To Fix It": Ending this war in Gaza begins with recognizing Hamas [View all] Fred Sanders Aug 2014 OP

I'd say Jimmy Carter has a lot more on the ball upaloopa Aug 2014 #1

I'd say he's lost it Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #59

Welcome to DU Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #74

k&r for James Earl Carter, Jr. Laelth Aug 2014 #2

The seige of Gaza needs to end 4now Aug 2014 #3

The president needs to send Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton to sort this out Rhiannon12866 Aug 2014 #4

Carter, yes -- Clinton, no� regnaD kciN Aug 2014 #43

Actually, I was thinking of him more as an adviser to President Carter, LOL Rhiannon12866 Aug 2014 #45

"Hamas cannot be wished away, nor will it cooperate in its own demise," Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #5

Diplomats? leftynyc Aug 2014 #54

"Kill all Jews" is not in their Charter, more lies. Give it up, Israel's moral failures are clear. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #72

Funny how a "Liberal" will suddenly buy Right Wing propaganda if it's anti-Palestinian. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #77

I think it's cute to use Wolf Blitzer as a reliable source for the truth.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #75

K and R bigwillq Aug 2014 #6

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #7

Fred is a good 'un. RobertEarl Aug 2014 #8

This. hifiguy Aug 2014 #78

Thank you. Too many freaking liberals buying into obvious propaganda...shades of Iraq. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #79

Recognize Hamas? That's absurd. joshcryer Aug 2014 #9

agreed. nt boston bean Aug 2014 #10

No, it's the most logical path to peace. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #11

No it isn't. joshcryer Aug 2014 #13

Hamas just agreed to a unity government with Fatah in the West Bank and were Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #15

They were also supposedly "going to" stop the rockets. joshcryer Aug 2014 #17

When Israel and Hamas were cooperating with each other in 2013 rocket attacks dropped 98% Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #24

That was after "Pillar of Defense." joshcryer Aug 2014 #25

what that does jberryhill Aug 2014 #27

Not really. joshcryer Aug 2014 #32

you were saying "no rockets" right? jberryhill Aug 2014 #37

I don't think it's appropriate at all. joshcryer Aug 2014 #39

Israels kids and PTSD? MFM008 Aug 2014 #53

who gave them a pass? jberryhill Aug 2014 #82

Yes we have, I remember making this post and this should tell you a few things. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #28

The rockets started flying first. joshcryer Aug 2014 #34

On a thread by bigtree. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #35

Yes, irrelevant. joshcryer Aug 2014 #36

Netanyahu's mass retribution turning a tragic crime into an act of war is what escalated both Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #38

Agree. n/t kiranon Aug 2014 #12

They were elected, weren't they? killbotfactory Aug 2014 #14

8 years ago. joshcryer Aug 2014 #16

Regardless, they hold power. What good does ignoring them do? nt killbotfactory Aug 2014 #18

The mafia held power at one point. joshcryer Aug 2014 #23

And... ? Lots of governments around the world act like a mafia. nt killbotfactory Aug 2014 #26

Hard to call a mafia a government. joshcryer Aug 2014 #31

Yeah, and the US negotiated with them jberryhill Aug 2014 #33

They were about to hold elections after the unity government agreement between Fatah/Hamas and Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #30

Netanyahu doesn't have mind control to make Hamas fire rockets. joshcryer Aug 2014 #40

Being blockaded in a dense open air prison, Ghetto with a 70% poverty rate creates a powder keg Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #42

Hamas wasn't "triggered" to allow rocket stockpiling. joshcryer Aug 2014 #44

Why not? Their members were being rounded up in mass numbers for the actions of two. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #46

So, they stockpiled rockets for this occasion? joshcryer Aug 2014 #47

If all you have are rocks that's what you stock up on, they have no air force, no navy, no tanks, Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #48

I don't see how rockets help the situation. joshcryer Aug 2014 #50

It's a matter of pride. If you can't stop a well-armed imperial power from destroying your eridani Aug 2014 #51

Look what their pride has gotten them leftynyc Aug 2014 #55

Israel will proceed with mass murder regardless of what they do. eridani Aug 2014 #56

I stopped reading leftynyc Aug 2014 #64

Hamas just joined a unity government that goes against its charter eridani Aug 2014 #65

It was the rockets leftynyc Aug 2014 #66

Hamas joined a unity government that recognizes Israel, period eridani Aug 2014 #67

How lovely (and pointed) leftynyc Aug 2014 #68

The consequences of the rockets have been one casualty, period eridani Aug 2014 #69

They're nothing but a symbol of defiance, but that's all they have. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #52

That's like saying Cliven Bundy and his AK47s are a symbol. joshcryer Aug 2014 #57

Yea, because 1.8 million impoverished people trapped in an open air prison ghetto is like a man that Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #83

Palestine has a right to defend itself. If not Hamas, some form of Palestinian military morningfog Aug 2014 #29

The rockets have zero defensive purpose. joshcryer Aug 2014 #41

But long range artillery into an urban area, armed drones, bombs dropped...all defensive.?..... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #73

Interesting. Quite the contrast to Clinton's recent thoughts on the matter. nt adirondacker Aug 2014 #19

Carter isn't thinking about running for office again. n/t hughee99 Aug 2014 #22

He's right. And had we "recognized" Saddam there would have been no need for invading...BUT kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #20

knr n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2014 #21

I'll take Jimmy Carter's word for it. He knows more than anybody in the world... Peace Patriot Aug 2014 #49

Let's face it... FarPoint Aug 2014 #58

Carter is wrong and only a moron would do what he suggests. badtoworse Aug 2014 #60

here is a list of morons who have been advocating exactly that for years Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #62

See Post 70. Powell talked about a dialogue with Hamas, not recognition ot its legitimacy. badtoworse Aug 2014 #71

Destruction of "Israel" not the destruction of Jews. It's really about land and resources. kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #63

Hamas has never recognized Israel's right to exist and has always been committed to its destruction. badtoworse Aug 2014 #70

OBVIOUSLY!! To quote a former Israeli Foreign Minister: Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #61

I suppose that could help. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #76

K&R emsimon33 Aug 2014 #80

K&R! G_j Aug 2014 #81