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billhicks76

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77. Stupid Argument

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 10:50 PM

Aug 2014

Carter was sabatoged by Bush October Surprise keeping the hostages until after the election. And guess what? Bush Sr refers publicly to Bill Clinton as his 5th son after the 2000 election was finally sealed. Those two families are very close according to their own admonition. And 1984? Your joking right? You couldn't find a more establishment candidate than Walter Mondale. And it's people aligned more with you than myself that liked Dukakis in '88. Now it's true Clinton would've lost in '92 if Ross Perot wasn't so offended by Bush CIA cocaine smuggling and threats against his family which promoted him to run to spoil thing for Bush who he thought was evil according to close associates. BUT the pendulum was swinging back to the left as the cycle always does so if you want to defend moving the center to the right, which I thought everyone on the site agrees happened according to their comments the last decade, go right ahead. If you think it didn't happen then maybe you should go argue with someone else. And you wonder how Republicans always game us?

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Caroline Kennedy Says She Will Back Hillary Clinton, Warren camp says NY Post article... [View all] wyldwolf Aug 2014 OP

The Klein article is silent on Caroline Kennedy's preference. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #1

Warren says the story is completely made up. That should be the end of it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #2

That can't be the end! We want her to run even though see said she won't! She used the wrong word! snooper2 Aug 2014 #4

I will not vote for Hillary whether Elizabeth Warren runs or not. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #21

Okay, I'll bite - what makes Elizabeth Warren more qualified than Hillary Clinton? George II Aug 2014 #23

I hope you're not holding your breath ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #51

Nah...it basically was a rhetorical question since there really is no answer. George II Aug 2014 #57

Actually, I'm having trouble writing an answer short enough to fit on DU. Taking a little JDPriestly Aug 2014 #89

In other words wyldwolf Aug 2014 #91

Have you read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #93

Quote the relevant parts wyldwolf Aug 2014 #95

Elizabeth Warren is not a socialist. Read her book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #96

In other words you really can't answer those questions wyldwolf Aug 2014 #98

You should read the book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #99

How many words did you just write? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #100

Why is Hillary qualified, because I dont' think Hillary is qualified. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #103

and then you divert from the question again and write another anti-clinton diatribe wyldwolf Aug 2014 #104

You need to read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #106

back to that again? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #107

What qualifications do you want president to have. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #109

I want you to stop diverting and tell me what Warren's are. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #110

Rather a one-sided conversation. I have written three posts answering your question. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #111

you've written three long diatribes about Clinton, then some touchy feely fanboy Warren stuff wyldwolf Aug 2014 #112

Define "qualifications," please. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #113

those things that make someone suitable for the presidency wyldwolf Aug 2014 #114

Fanboy seriously? davidpdx Aug 2014 #135

Fanboy seriously wyldwolf Aug 2014 #136

Look in the mirror davidpdx Aug 2014 #138

I have and I'm not wyldwolf Aug 2014 #139

Says the person who goes around calling people "fanboy" davidpdx Aug 2014 #140

If your only reason for supporting someone is they make you warm and tingly inside wyldwolf Aug 2014 #141

What relevant things did Barack Obama do before becoming president? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #115

You're STILL avoiding the question! LOL! And now you're dragging Obama into it. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #116

What did Obama or Clinton or Hillary or George W. Bush do legislatively before JDPriestly Aug 2014 #120

This is not about Reagan or Obama wyldwolf Aug 2014 #123

You've replied to the wrong person. NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #122

Here is why I think Elizabeth Warren would have broad appeal. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #128

You are obviously a very devoted Warren advocate ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #132

See my post #89. I give some of my reasons. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #90

can you name a democrat demigoddess Aug 2014 #81

Elizabeth Warren. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #92

Jan Schakowsky PassingFair Aug 2014 #105

Everyone bowing his head to HRC..... mylye2222 Aug 2014 #86

It's gone from love affair BainsBane Aug 2014 #38

Yeah. it's stupid of people to dream Union Scribe Aug 2014 #46

Yes it IS stupid to dream... brooklynite Aug 2014 #72

That's certainly what her press secretary, Ms. Rose, said. Laelth Aug 2014 #15

She certainly knows the main point of the story is false BainsBane Aug 2014 #16

I think she can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #41

Elizabeth Warren knows that it was fabricated, and she told her press secretary. pnwmom Aug 2014 #17

I think Ms. Rose can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #42

She must know then that Warren didn't go up there to sail in their boat pnwmom Aug 2014 #48

But Elizabeth Warren is not silent on the NY Post's article. MineralMan Aug 2014 #3

I have no reason to doubt her Press Secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #6

She knows because her boss, Warren, told her it was completely made up. pnwmom Aug 2014 #18

Maybe because her boss, Elizabeth Warren, told her so? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #26

LOL Bill Clinton has been known to say that DC is a fact-free zone. DURHAM D Aug 2014 #30

Warren also signed a letter to Hillary from female US Senators asking her to run Gman Aug 2014 #8

Yeah, cause when someone talks about Kennedys BainsBane Aug 2014 #37

I don't think Caroline is authorized to speak for her entire family. Laelth Aug 2014 #44

Yet you don't believe Warren? BainsBane Aug 2014 #45

I believe her press secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #47

i wish people would stop smearing Elizabeth Warren by associating her with racist scum like Klein JI7 Aug 2014 #5

Wow...The NY Compost made something up completely! joeybee12 Aug 2014 #7

I know davidpdx Aug 2014 #137

Next it'll be Fox Noise if the article fits their preconceived ideas joeybee12 Aug 2014 #142

I'm a Warren fan and said this article was BS PAProgressive28 Aug 2014 #9

I'm a Warren supporter, too, and would be proud to have her as my President wyldwolf Aug 2014 #11

It really sucks that we have to debunk this shit on DU. William769 Aug 2014 #10

Ed Klein making stuff up? NuclearDem Aug 2014 #12

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2014 #13

The true progressives, Sid. The true progressives. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #27

Those are REAL DEMOCRATS, Sid Dithers of DU... zappaman Aug 2014 #61

I guess Only REAL DEMOCRATS... SidDithers Aug 2014 #70

That we even had to see that leftynyc Aug 2014 #14

But 90% of DUers believe it! frazzled Aug 2014 #19

Warren 2016 billhicks76 Aug 2014 #20

Clinton 2016 wyldwolf Aug 2014 #28

No Thanks billhicks76 Aug 2014 #49

Yes thank you wyldwolf Aug 2014 #53

I'd Rather Eat My Own Vomit billhicks76 Aug 2014 #58

I'd Rather you eat your own vomit, too, but we can't all get what we want. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #59

Haha But C'mon billhicks76 Aug 2014 #62

haha but C'mon. You live in an echo chamber, in the overwhelming minority on the left wyldwolf Aug 2014 #63

You Seem Very Skilled billhicks76 Aug 2014 #64

I'll bet you don't believe in evolution and climate change, either. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #65

Well I Hope She Loses billhicks76 Aug 2014 #66

Of course you do wyldwolf Aug 2014 #68

Science? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #75

yeah, dude. Science. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #87

You're Funny billhicks76 Aug 2014 #94

You're a fundamentalist wyldwolf Aug 2014 #97

seem being the operative word bobduca Aug 2014 #119

This is not about choosing candidates: it's about posting crap frazzled Aug 2014 #29

Just like Al Gore = George Bush . pnwmom Aug 2014 #36

Isnt That Your Mantra? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #50

Ralph Nader said Bush and Gore were the same: Tweedledum or Tweedledee. pnwmom Aug 2014 #52

I'll Bet billhicks76 Aug 2014 #54

Nader was the only progressive who drew votes from Gore. pnwmom Aug 2014 #56

It's called Karma billhicks76 Aug 2014 #60

After Presidents Bush and Reagan, you're saying that Clinton pushed the country to the right? pnwmom Aug 2014 #67

anxiously awaiting his reply wyldwolf Aug 2014 #69

Keep Laughing billhicks76 Aug 2014 #74

You must have loved it when we lost 2 Presidential elections by 49 states to 1. pnwmom Aug 2014 #76

Stupid Argument billhicks76 Aug 2014 #77

If People Want Republican-Lite billhicks76 Aug 2014 #78

I guess you never heard of George McGovern. Or maybe he wasn't enough of a progressive pnwmom Aug 2014 #79

Hold On Historian billhicks76 Aug 2014 #82

You Say McGovern billhicks76 Aug 2014 #83

Other than a few particular issues, like gay rights, the country isn't more liberal and progressive. pnwmom Aug 2014 #84

That Was Old Right billhicks76 Aug 2014 #85

Don't underestimate the political right. The Gerrymandering is a huge thing and Nate Silver pnwmom Aug 2014 #88

You Don't Understand? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #133

Clinton didn't move the center to the Right. When the Soviet Union collapsed, pnwmom Aug 2014 #134

Exactly!!! Beacool Aug 2014 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author bobduca Aug 2014 #125

If this was in the NY Post, why are the two references, links, from the NY Times and Boston Globe? George II Aug 2014 #22

But the two links calling out another DUer are from the Post Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #24

This is the OP that started the shit storm DURHAM D Aug 2014 #25

42 now. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #43

43 now. Still less than this OP which officially debunks that other one. Number23 Aug 2014 #71

The plain fucking stupid is strong with this thread. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #73

Any new poster linking that guy would get tombstoned. joshcryer Aug 2014 #118

Thanks for the official debunk, wyldwolf. Cha Aug 2014 #31

Hilary Will Have To Renounce and Explain Her Past Association With....... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #32

So you would like to rebuke the Buy America she stood for while she was on the board of Walmart? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #102

And How Many American..... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #117

So you would rather shutter the doors, I don't see your point, how many Americans did it help for Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #124

you dont get the point rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #126

Hillary was a push on Buy America, she is not there any more, Walmart is now getting their products Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #127

Im Sorry rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #129

I would hope the American worker would have someone on their side, guess it is not Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #130

Hilary Cant Say No rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #131

She will not have to do anything. She is blowing everyone away at this point. stevenleser Aug 2014 #108

While I'm one who would love to see Warren run... TDale313 Aug 2014 #33

sulution: El Shaman Aug 2014 #34

somebody cracked the whip DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #35

You can't be serious? BainsBane Aug 2014 #39

Aristocratic Power Family SMACKDOWN! Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #40

i agree - it is highly unlikely that Sen. Warren will run - it is time to stop paying games and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #55

Oh, dear. This'll be a problem in some quarters. MADem Aug 2014 #80

I'm going to vote for Hillary again gwheezie Aug 2014 #101