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wyldwolf

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87. yeah, dude. Science.

Thu Aug 7, 2014, 06:49 AM

Aug 2014

University of Michigan's Dr. Vincent Hutchings explains the science of random sampling that makes it possible to query a few hundred or thousand people and use that data to accurately determine how the general public might vote.

http://science360.gov/obj/video/dc8e0737-ceac-4582-bee9-5f195951a01a/science-behind-news-opinion-polls-random-sampling

Predictive Principles For Polls - Scientific Method in Public Opinion Research

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2745749?uid=3739616&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21104039471851

Measuring Public Support for Policy Change

http://www.mc.uky.edu/tobaccopolicy/KCSP/OnePagers/OnePagerScientificPublicOpinionPolling090211.pdf

Oh, but I get it. Like any fundamentalist, you deny the results of science because you don't like the results.

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Caroline Kennedy Says She Will Back Hillary Clinton, Warren camp says NY Post article... [View all] wyldwolf Aug 2014 OP

The Klein article is silent on Caroline Kennedy's preference. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #1

Warren says the story is completely made up. That should be the end of it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #2

That can't be the end! We want her to run even though see said she won't! She used the wrong word! snooper2 Aug 2014 #4

I will not vote for Hillary whether Elizabeth Warren runs or not. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #21

Okay, I'll bite - what makes Elizabeth Warren more qualified than Hillary Clinton? George II Aug 2014 #23

I hope you're not holding your breath ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #51

Nah...it basically was a rhetorical question since there really is no answer. George II Aug 2014 #57

Actually, I'm having trouble writing an answer short enough to fit on DU. Taking a little JDPriestly Aug 2014 #89

In other words wyldwolf Aug 2014 #91

Have you read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #93

Quote the relevant parts wyldwolf Aug 2014 #95

Elizabeth Warren is not a socialist. Read her book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #96

In other words you really can't answer those questions wyldwolf Aug 2014 #98

You should read the book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #99

How many words did you just write? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #100

Why is Hillary qualified, because I dont' think Hillary is qualified. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #103

and then you divert from the question again and write another anti-clinton diatribe wyldwolf Aug 2014 #104

You need to read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #106

back to that again? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #107

What qualifications do you want president to have. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #109

I want you to stop diverting and tell me what Warren's are. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #110

Rather a one-sided conversation. I have written three posts answering your question. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #111

you've written three long diatribes about Clinton, then some touchy feely fanboy Warren stuff wyldwolf Aug 2014 #112

Define "qualifications," please. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #113

those things that make someone suitable for the presidency wyldwolf Aug 2014 #114

Fanboy seriously? davidpdx Aug 2014 #135

Fanboy seriously wyldwolf Aug 2014 #136

Look in the mirror davidpdx Aug 2014 #138

I have and I'm not wyldwolf Aug 2014 #139

Says the person who goes around calling people "fanboy" davidpdx Aug 2014 #140

If your only reason for supporting someone is they make you warm and tingly inside wyldwolf Aug 2014 #141

What relevant things did Barack Obama do before becoming president? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #115

You're STILL avoiding the question! LOL! And now you're dragging Obama into it. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #116

What did Obama or Clinton or Hillary or George W. Bush do legislatively before JDPriestly Aug 2014 #120

This is not about Reagan or Obama wyldwolf Aug 2014 #123

You've replied to the wrong person. NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #122

Here is why I think Elizabeth Warren would have broad appeal. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #128

You are obviously a very devoted Warren advocate ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #132

See my post #89. I give some of my reasons. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #90

can you name a democrat demigoddess Aug 2014 #81

Elizabeth Warren. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #92

Jan Schakowsky PassingFair Aug 2014 #105

Everyone bowing his head to HRC..... mylye2222 Aug 2014 #86

It's gone from love affair BainsBane Aug 2014 #38

Yeah. it's stupid of people to dream Union Scribe Aug 2014 #46

Yes it IS stupid to dream... brooklynite Aug 2014 #72

That's certainly what her press secretary, Ms. Rose, said. Laelth Aug 2014 #15

She certainly knows the main point of the story is false BainsBane Aug 2014 #16

I think she can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #41

Elizabeth Warren knows that it was fabricated, and she told her press secretary. pnwmom Aug 2014 #17

I think Ms. Rose can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #42

She must know then that Warren didn't go up there to sail in their boat pnwmom Aug 2014 #48

But Elizabeth Warren is not silent on the NY Post's article. MineralMan Aug 2014 #3

I have no reason to doubt her Press Secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #6

She knows because her boss, Warren, told her it was completely made up. pnwmom Aug 2014 #18

Maybe because her boss, Elizabeth Warren, told her so? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #26

LOL Bill Clinton has been known to say that DC is a fact-free zone. DURHAM D Aug 2014 #30

Warren also signed a letter to Hillary from female US Senators asking her to run Gman Aug 2014 #8

Yeah, cause when someone talks about Kennedys BainsBane Aug 2014 #37

I don't think Caroline is authorized to speak for her entire family. Laelth Aug 2014 #44

Yet you don't believe Warren? BainsBane Aug 2014 #45

I believe her press secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #47

i wish people would stop smearing Elizabeth Warren by associating her with racist scum like Klein JI7 Aug 2014 #5

Wow...The NY Compost made something up completely! joeybee12 Aug 2014 #7

I know davidpdx Aug 2014 #137

Next it'll be Fox Noise if the article fits their preconceived ideas joeybee12 Aug 2014 #142

I'm a Warren fan and said this article was BS PAProgressive28 Aug 2014 #9

I'm a Warren supporter, too, and would be proud to have her as my President wyldwolf Aug 2014 #11

It really sucks that we have to debunk this shit on DU. William769 Aug 2014 #10

Ed Klein making stuff up? NuclearDem Aug 2014 #12

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2014 #13

The true progressives, Sid. The true progressives. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #27

Those are REAL DEMOCRATS, Sid Dithers of DU... zappaman Aug 2014 #61

I guess Only REAL DEMOCRATS... SidDithers Aug 2014 #70

That we even had to see that leftynyc Aug 2014 #14

But 90% of DUers believe it! frazzled Aug 2014 #19

Warren 2016 billhicks76 Aug 2014 #20

Clinton 2016 wyldwolf Aug 2014 #28

No Thanks billhicks76 Aug 2014 #49

Yes thank you wyldwolf Aug 2014 #53

I'd Rather Eat My Own Vomit billhicks76 Aug 2014 #58

I'd Rather you eat your own vomit, too, but we can't all get what we want. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #59

Haha But C'mon billhicks76 Aug 2014 #62

haha but C'mon. You live in an echo chamber, in the overwhelming minority on the left wyldwolf Aug 2014 #63

You Seem Very Skilled billhicks76 Aug 2014 #64

I'll bet you don't believe in evolution and climate change, either. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #65

Well I Hope She Loses billhicks76 Aug 2014 #66

Of course you do wyldwolf Aug 2014 #68

Science? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #75

yeah, dude. Science. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #87

You're Funny billhicks76 Aug 2014 #94

You're a fundamentalist wyldwolf Aug 2014 #97

seem being the operative word bobduca Aug 2014 #119

This is not about choosing candidates: it's about posting crap frazzled Aug 2014 #29

Just like Al Gore = George Bush . pnwmom Aug 2014 #36

Isnt That Your Mantra? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #50

Ralph Nader said Bush and Gore were the same: Tweedledum or Tweedledee. pnwmom Aug 2014 #52

I'll Bet billhicks76 Aug 2014 #54

Nader was the only progressive who drew votes from Gore. pnwmom Aug 2014 #56

It's called Karma billhicks76 Aug 2014 #60

After Presidents Bush and Reagan, you're saying that Clinton pushed the country to the right? pnwmom Aug 2014 #67

anxiously awaiting his reply wyldwolf Aug 2014 #69

Keep Laughing billhicks76 Aug 2014 #74

You must have loved it when we lost 2 Presidential elections by 49 states to 1. pnwmom Aug 2014 #76

Stupid Argument billhicks76 Aug 2014 #77

If People Want Republican-Lite billhicks76 Aug 2014 #78

I guess you never heard of George McGovern. Or maybe he wasn't enough of a progressive pnwmom Aug 2014 #79

Hold On Historian billhicks76 Aug 2014 #82

You Say McGovern billhicks76 Aug 2014 #83

Other than a few particular issues, like gay rights, the country isn't more liberal and progressive. pnwmom Aug 2014 #84

That Was Old Right billhicks76 Aug 2014 #85

Don't underestimate the political right. The Gerrymandering is a huge thing and Nate Silver pnwmom Aug 2014 #88

You Don't Understand? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #133

Clinton didn't move the center to the Right. When the Soviet Union collapsed, pnwmom Aug 2014 #134

Exactly!!! Beacool Aug 2014 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author bobduca Aug 2014 #125

If this was in the NY Post, why are the two references, links, from the NY Times and Boston Globe? George II Aug 2014 #22

But the two links calling out another DUer are from the Post Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #24

This is the OP that started the shit storm DURHAM D Aug 2014 #25

42 now. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #43

43 now. Still less than this OP which officially debunks that other one. Number23 Aug 2014 #71

The plain fucking stupid is strong with this thread. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #73

Any new poster linking that guy would get tombstoned. joshcryer Aug 2014 #118

Thanks for the official debunk, wyldwolf. Cha Aug 2014 #31

Hilary Will Have To Renounce and Explain Her Past Association With....... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #32

So you would like to rebuke the Buy America she stood for while she was on the board of Walmart? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #102

And How Many American..... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #117

So you would rather shutter the doors, I don't see your point, how many Americans did it help for Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #124

you dont get the point rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #126

Hillary was a push on Buy America, she is not there any more, Walmart is now getting their products Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #127

Im Sorry rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #129

I would hope the American worker would have someone on their side, guess it is not Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #130

Hilary Cant Say No rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #131

She will not have to do anything. She is blowing everyone away at this point. stevenleser Aug 2014 #108

While I'm one who would love to see Warren run... TDale313 Aug 2014 #33

sulution: El Shaman Aug 2014 #34

somebody cracked the whip DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #35

You can't be serious? BainsBane Aug 2014 #39

Aristocratic Power Family SMACKDOWN! Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #40

i agree - it is highly unlikely that Sen. Warren will run - it is time to stop paying games and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #55

Oh, dear. This'll be a problem in some quarters. MADem Aug 2014 #80

I'm going to vote for Hillary again gwheezie Aug 2014 #101