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Bernardo de La Paz

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21. False dichotomy.

Thu Aug 7, 2014, 08:13 AM

Aug 2014

It's not either or.

1) It's the brightness of light and the duration, not the UV content, that prevents Seasonal Affective Disorder.

2) You can take large doses of Vitamin D supplements. I take 5,000 IU per day and limit my sun exposure. Note, it is IU, not mg (milligrams) or even mcg (micrograms) as some idiot poster posted above.

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Link between vitamin D, dementia risk confirmed (sciencedaily) [View all] DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 OP

Here is the link. cbayer Aug 2014 #1

For clarity: It's Vitamin D deficiency that's the problem. Laelth Aug 2014 #2

Funny how in a time when everything is "enriched" beyond belief, when you can't find some DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #3

Good post. Thanks ! BlueJazz Aug 2014 #4

Well now.. sendero Aug 2014 #6

Indirect sunlight and sun block Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #12

Most sunblock blocks UVB radiation, which turns off your skin's D-making ability. tridim Aug 2014 #15

Okay, Just going by what my dr told me, on two different occasions I'll grant you. Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #17

I definintely want the sunlight, UVB in particular. tridim Aug 2014 #14

Some of us are shall we say melanin deficient. Mr Sun is not our friend. nt Hekate Aug 2014 #41

As a fellow melanin deficient person laundry_queen Aug 2014 #45

You can goto Amazon and read up on astaxanthin, you will find some of the DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #52

lol laundry_queen Aug 2014 #53

Still I wonder, did you make it to the summit?? One would hope so, if not at least you can say DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #54

Still climbing laundry_queen Aug 2014 #55

False dichotomy. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #21

Now you have opened up a can of worms. It's like this, sunlight produces vitamin D which protects DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #37

It's NOT 50,000 mg. It's important to get your facts straight about stuff like this. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #22

I was severely vitamin D deficient tammywammy Aug 2014 #23

Thanks. That makes more sense. 50,000 IU / wk = 7,000 IU per day. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #25

+1...nt SidDithers Aug 2014 #67

Vitamin D infused milk drinker here madokie Aug 2014 #5

Association is not causality. McCamy Taylor Aug 2014 #7

The peer review process generally ferrets out studies that do not adequately address other stevenleser Aug 2014 #9

Here is the link for the full study. Apparently they did NOT control/address exercise/activity stevenleser Aug 2014 #11

Always amused at how often people drag out this old saw Dreamer Tatum Aug 2014 #34

Adele Davis was/is ridiculed newfie11 Aug 2014 #8

Jaysus, I haven't heard that name in decades. Granny M Aug 2014 #13

Hey, I'm a big fan of Davis! FailureToCommunicate Aug 2014 #18

That's Angela Davis, not Adelle Davis Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #24

It's an old chuckle from the 60's: "If you don't know the difference between Angela FailureToCommunicate Aug 2014 #28

Ok, you made me chuckle ^^ nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #36

Ok, you hurt my feelings, as if some doctor is going to give a person 50,000mg shots. I expect DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #38

No. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #39

That's rude. DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #43

Both my cardiologist and nephrologist packman Aug 2014 #10

Eat fish malaise Aug 2014 #16

A deficiency in VitD has also been clinically associated with greater risk for breast cancer. n/t MoonRiver Aug 2014 #19

A 'Mediterranean diet' includes LOTS of Vitamin D among other health benefits... FailureToCommunicate Aug 2014 #20

I tried Vitamin D supplements and after three days I was contemplating murdering everyone I know CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #26

You have to take K2 with D3 supplements. tridim Aug 2014 #29

Or I could just get all the sunshine I need , eat healthy, and leave supplements alone. CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #31

That's ideal, but it is impossible get enough magnesium through diet alone. tridim Aug 2014 #33

FYI, there is alternative thinking on the calcium supplements. Trillo Aug 2014 #44

Thanks for the info. I take calcium very rarely since I drink lots of whole milk. tridim Aug 2014 #47

Wow! laundry_queen Aug 2014 #46

Vitamin D taker here justiceischeap Aug 2014 #27

But brilliant woo fighters told me supplements are anti scientific bullshit... What to do? whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #30

That's not what they've said at all. tammywammy Aug 2014 #32

Don't confuse 'em with facts... SidDithers Aug 2014 #35

Does not answer the question of how much per day you should take as a supplement. Hekate Aug 2014 #40

I had a level of 25 started taking 2-3000 per day and flamingdem Aug 2014 #42

thanks. I've been taking 2,000 IU per day when I remember. Think I'll be more consistent! Hekate Aug 2014 #49

I am not kidding you, see this post. DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #64

Some further info from the article: hedgehog Aug 2014 #48

A vampire in our midst.... who knew?? n/t DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #51

You speak the truth more than you know - I can't be in direct sunlight without burning! hedgehog Aug 2014 #56

Let me help you with that if you don't mind.... DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #57

As it happens, direct sunlight tends to leave me with migraine as well, hedgehog Aug 2014 #58

Used to live not far from Lake Erie, miss it dearly. n/t DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #59

My daughter went to ESF in Syracuse - kids from NYC could not believe that people actually hedgehog Aug 2014 #60

When it's what you grow up with, it is the normal of your life. I actually miss the gray skies now DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #61

On the plus side - our summers are filled with amazing skies - cumulus clouds piled higher than you hedgehog Aug 2014 #62

Ever go down to Angola, Derby or Lake Shore to see the ice piling up on the shore? DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #63

No, but I do recall the annual arguement about when the boom on the City of Buffalo water intake hedgehog Aug 2014 #65

I'll bet they "bearly" make it sometimes.... (arctic thaw ref) nt DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #66

It comes down to the fact we weren't meant to stay inside 24-7 JCMach1 Aug 2014 #50