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badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
38. We're not going to agree on this
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:21 AM
Aug 2014

Lenders will look at a base rate (one that reflects zero or negligible risk) and assign a premium to that. 10 Year Treasuries are frequently used for that. On top of that the bank adds a premium that reflects credit and other risks. The bottom line in assigning the credit risk premium is whether the loan gets repaid, when it gets repaid and what the bank has to go through to get repaid. The banks know that a significant number of loans will wind up in default and of those, many will go unpaid for years because the borrower has no wages to garnish or simply vanishes. If you don't make the loan payments when and as due, you're in default and given the large numbers of people in that position, saying there is no default risk is ludicrous. There really is credit risk associated with student loans and just saying there isn't doesn't make it so.

I did propose a solution. That solution is looking at the cost of a college education and the employment prospects associated with the degree you'll get. If no one is hiring in the field you want to select, does it make sense to borrow $100,000 plus to get a degree? Parents and student need to evaluate that before they borrow the $100K. Spending a fortune on a degree for which there is no demand in the job market is stupid. In other words, the solution is to do some research and try to make a reasoned, intelligent decisions about the college you select, the degree you pursue and how much debt you take on. If more parent and students did this, the demand for high priced college degrees would diminish and those high priced schools would have to lower tuition to remain competitive.

Laugh once in a while. I thought Caddyshack was a scream. I guess you didn't.

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The Federal government is a culprit in this...the whole student loan process is a disgrace randys1 Aug 2014 #1
If they co-signed for the loans, then of course they are responsible for paying them. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #2
Yup. Agschmid Aug 2014 #5
They're not. Igel Aug 2014 #7
I guess it would be a good idea to carry life insurance on your kid if you are Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #10
That is a good idea, if you have co-signed for them badtoworse Aug 2014 #12
For a healthy 20-something adult with no bad habits , Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #13
That's an excellent idea for any co-signed loan. MineralMan Aug 2014 #14
Exactly. Either people are stupid or think laws don't apply to them joeglow3 Aug 2014 #16
That's a cruel and false dichotomy Orrex Aug 2014 #21
Thanks. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #25
Bullshit joeglow3 Aug 2014 #26
I'm not telling you to hold back Orrex Aug 2014 #27
If student loans could be discharged through bankruptcy, the interest rates would likely be higher. badtoworse Aug 2014 #29
Ergo: Orrex Aug 2014 #31
Bankruptcy is not the only risk or consideration in setting loan rates badtoworse Aug 2014 #36
Zero risk of default? Ultimately, very close to it.. Orrex Aug 2014 #37
We're not going to agree on this badtoworse Aug 2014 #38
You didn't propose a solution Orrex Aug 2014 #39
I don't take joy at people struggling with debt, but I'm not willing to just forgive it either. badtoworse Aug 2014 #40
I am not shitting all over a grieving family joeglow3 Aug 2014 #30
RE: "the knowledge in your head" Orrex Aug 2014 #32
+100 nt LiberalEsto Aug 2014 #34
- Takket Aug 2014 #3
Or don't co-sign loans. joeglow3 Aug 2014 #17
I think this is only in the case of the parents having cosigned the loan. enough Aug 2014 #4
The problem is private bank loans that parent's cosign for Marrah_G Aug 2014 #6
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #8
In answer to your statement Stargazer99 Aug 2014 #9
George R. R. Martin called. He wants to know if you have any other epic fantasy ideas he could use. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #19
If a repuke is elected POTUS hifiguy Aug 2014 #11
Something I didn't see mentioned, when the student loan goes through shraby Aug 2014 #15
So, you pay $5 a month for a term life policy on the student. joeglow3 Aug 2014 #18
"Honestly, I am surprised banks don't offer it..." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #20
Even if they did laundry_queen Aug 2014 #23
That would be true for any loan you co-sign for. tammywammy Aug 2014 #22
Is there a link please? I would like to know for sure if it is only onecent Aug 2014 #24
If you co-sign on a loan then you should also get term life insurance on the borrower mwrguy Aug 2014 #28
The law passed 74-25 in the Senate. 73 House Dems voted for it. BKH70041 Aug 2014 #33
That is only true if liberalhistorian Aug 2014 #35
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