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In reply to the discussion: The Dumpster Fire of Obama's Moral Authority [View all]Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I have a question for all the well-meaning people who praise President Obama for banning torture:
Would you also find it helpful for the president to ban kidnapping? Child abuse? Mail fraud?
Maybe you would. After all, no one likes kidnapping, child abuse, or mail fraud. Maybe it would be good if the president banned them.
But of course, it would be incoherent to talk of the president banning such practicesbecause these things are all illegal. And in a democracyin a country under the rule of lawthe president has no more power to prohibit whats illegal than he does to permit it.
Fair enough, you might say, but isnt banning whats already illegal just kind of a suspenders-and-a-belt thing? A bit of emphasis, an arguably redundant exclamation point?
No, its not. Purporting to ban what is already illegal is in fact terribly insidious. And heres why, in two axioms.
1. What fundamentally makes something a law is that if you violate it, you will face punishment.
2. What one president can prohibit, another can permit.
Put these two concepts together, and what do you get when a president reacts to governmental law-breaking by: (1) not prosecuting anyone involved; and (2) instead banning what they did?
What you get is not a proscription of law, but a policy of choice.
And this is why Obamas notion that he has the power to ban torture, and his failure to prosecute anyone who ordered it, is so insidious, so caustic to the rule of law (and note that Obama hasnt even banned all tortureonly some!). Obama is cementing in the mind of the public the notion that torture is not a crime, but merely a policy choice.
https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/blog/2014/08/dont-cheer-obamas-ban-torture