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Showing Original Post only (View all)Climate scientist drops the F-bomb after startling Arctic discovery [View all]
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/06/climate_scientist_drops_the_f_bomb_after_startling_arctic_discovery/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflowTheres nothing like Twitter to take a complicated issue and force you to break it down to its essence. In a case where scientists in the Arctic discovered massive plumes of methane escaping from the seafloor, climatologist and Arctic expert Jason Box sums that essence up thusly:
The study concerns the large deposits of methane (CH4) a greenhouse gas over twenty times more potent than CO2 known to be buried beneath the Arctic. Stockholm University researchers found that some of that methane is leaking, and even making it to the oceans surface. They called the discovery somewhat of a surprise, which, according to Box, doesnt quite communicate its importance. Motherboard senior editor Brian Merchant, sensing an opportunity to speak climate in more accessible language, followed up with Box, who stood by his assertion (and use of foul language):
Even if a small fraction of the Arctic carbon were released to the atmosphere, were fucked, he told me. What alarmed him was that the methane bubbles were reaching the surface. That was something new in my survey of methane bubbles, he said.
The conventional thought is that the bubbles would be dissolved before they reached the surface and that microorganisms would consume that methane, and thats normal, Box went on. But if the plumes are making it to the surface, thats a brand new source of heat-trapping gases that we need to worry about.
The Arctic is our most immediate carbon concern, Box said, referring also to the CH4 escaping from the melting permafrost. But the sentiment can be expanded to all of climate change:
Were on a trajectory to an unmanageable heating scenario, and we need to get off it, he said. Were fucked at a certain point, right? It just becomes unmanageable. The climate dragon is being poked, and eventually the dragon becomes pissed off enough to trash the place.
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geardaddy
Aug 2014
OP
Point me to where I said it was a "non issue" - oh that's right you can't, cause I didn't.
redqueen
Aug 2014
#4
According to the expert, the bubbles reaching the surface is what is new, at least to him.
Jim__
Aug 2014
#25
I pointed that out in the other thread she links too and she seems upset by what I don't know,
neverforget
Aug 2014
#56
Before I read this post... Don't tell me!! The scientist said "We're fucked." Ok, I'll now go
ChisolmTrailDem
Aug 2014
#5
you don't think obama understands or cares? the urgency may be debatable but the
certainot
Aug 2014
#57
Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act that allows Republican wealthy and corporations
JDPriestly
Aug 2014
#63
the fairness doctrine was the key to allowing those radio stations to be used as
certainot
Aug 2014
#65
His support of "clean coal" and expanding off shore oil exploration says otherwise.
progressoid
Aug 2014
#64
Talk radio is not stopping Obama and the other corporate Dems from opposing fossil fuels.
progressoid
Aug 2014
#68
it's politics and environmental groups give oil/coal radio a free speech free ride and
certainot
Aug 2014
#76
The oceans can dissolve a lot of gas. When the pressure of the gas overtakes the strength forces
DhhD
Aug 2014
#55
Forever, from no onwards, whenever anyone denies science for political gain,
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2014
#61