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In reply to the discussion: No Exceptional Circumstances Whatsoever... May Be Invoked as a Justification of Torture [View all]cheapdate
(3,811 posts)63. I understand that you were'nt attacking me.
My source was the link provided in the OP. Your google habits sound very close to mine. I google to see different perspectives. I google to confirm claims. In this case, I didn't google to cross-check the plain and direct claim made in Bigtree's source that the United States hadn't ratified the Convention.
As it turns out, the United States senate ratified the Convention on October 21, 1994, "...subject to certain declarations, reservations, and understandings, including a declaration that CAT Articles 1 through 16 were not self-executing, and therefore required domestic implementing legislation."
Bigtrees's source link was not up to date and my information was not correct.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl32276.pdf
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No Exceptional Circumstances Whatsoever... May Be Invoked as a Justification of Torture [View all]
bigtree
Aug 2014
OP
But..but..what if your neighbor's parakeet had a nuclear bomb hidden in his cage and...
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2014
#1
What if you are working hard and under enormous pressure, can that be invoked as justification? n/t
PoliticAverse
Aug 2014
#5
Good point, the Geneva Convention doesn't say "enhanced interrogation" is illegal.
rhett o rick
Aug 2014
#35
*Every one* needs to go back and study the Torture Memos and how Bushco made torture legal.
Lars39
Aug 2014
#21
Ditto. Bigtree and I don't see eye to eye on many things, but on this we're in complete agreement.
RufusTFirefly
Aug 2014
#27
What if it's just "folks"? Torturers, torturees... Can't we just let bygones be bygones?
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2014
#59