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JDPriestly

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103. Why is Hillary qualified, because I dont' think Hillary is qualified.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 07:08 PM
Aug 2014

Qualified is a term that presupposes the application of subjective criteria.

That is to say that there is no examination that determines whether a candidate for the presidency has learned all the facts and concepts that a president needs to know.

I think that Hillary is not at all qualified to be president at this time. She is stuck in an old reality. Her ideas will not improve the reality of today for most Americans. Hillary managed the State Department. I think that she did a less than stellar ob there. It isn't that her foreign policy was wrong. It's easy to get that right. And she did a good job with foreign relationships. But her views on economics are stuck back somewhere in the pre-computer age. She does not understand why H1-B visas are not right for America. She does not understand that Americans need to keep American jobs in America and that we need to bring back industry and move even more quickly toward alternative energy.

The job of president is to lead the country. One of the most important qualifications is charisma. Elizabeth Warren has it. It's hard to define. But her meteoric rise in popularity especially among those of us who are I have to say pretty well educated and intelligent and very, very interested in politics is quite amazing. I really liked John Kerry. I was brokenhearted when he lost in 2004 (if he lost).

But even he does not have the charisma of Elizabeth Warren. Obama has charisma. So did Bill Clinton. Hillary is well known, but as we saw in 2008, she does not have enough charisma to win in an election that everyone thought she should win.

A president is a leader. She must be able to make good decisions. As I pointed out, Hillary Clinton has not proven that she makes good decisions. Clearly, in 2008, she did not choose a staff or choose to take positions and state them in a way that could win against a relative rookie in politics. Further, as I have pointed out, her decision to vote for the Iraq War Resolution betrays carelessness and a need to please others when she makes decisions. She did not listen to those who were trying to inform her about what was really going on in Iraq and what needed to be done and not done there. We are now reaping the whirlwind that resulted from her careless vote and the thoughtless, blind votes of so many members of Congress. Horrible as he was, Saddam Hussein in power would have meant fewer lives lost and less upheaval in the Middle East I believe. It was a sign of very poor judgment in making decisions to vote for that war.

A president must take responsibility. I understand that Iowa is changing its rules for the primaries. That is not a bad idea. They need to be more inclusive. But I also understand that these changes are in response to a complaint by Hillary that people who could not participate during certain hours of the day were excluded. Apparently she thought that she would have done better if the rules had been changed. I doubt that she would have. Hillary blames others for her failings. What can I say. This is not a very nice topic. But I have the impression that Hillary is not great at taking responsibility for her own mistakes. She has admitted that her vote on the Iraq War was wrong. But I have not heard her admit that the reason was that she really did not question the bogus evidence that was presented to her. She has not really taken responsibility for her vote on that. Of all people, having recently left the White House, she was in a position to vote wisely. And she has not really taken responsibility for what she did wrong.

A president must choose good advisers. Bill Clinton did not. Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan, etc. were not good advisers. Clinton did choose a pretty good attorney general. That is probably because he knew more about law than about economics. We had a lot of Clinton advisers on the Obama staff when Obama took office. Some of them, like Larry Summers, are not what America wanted or deserved. Clinton's advisers gave him a lot of bad advice -- as on handling Al Qaeda, signing the Telecommunications Act and the repeal of Glass-Steagall to mention a few mistakes. The reappointment of Alan Greenspan indicated an inability to choose good aides. I expect that Hillary will choose her favorites from among the same crew.

Mind you, when Bill Clinton ran for president, I walked up and down the hills of my entire precinct to help get out the votes and urge people to vote for him. I have done a lot of work campaigning for candidates including Barack Obama. My choice for 2008 would have been John Edwards because he was the only one who recognized very early that economy was tanking and why that was happening. I knew it in 1997 when in the back of a courtroom, all the lawyers could talk about before the hearings was their stock market investments. That's a boom. A bust is bound to follow. (I hard read books on 1929, lots of them.) Edwards' personal problems of course were a huge disappointment to me.

I think that like John Edwards, Elizabeth Warren understands our economic crisis. I think she will be a good leader in that in her life and her career, her positions in government (read her book to find out what she has done there) and in Congress, she has consistently made good decisions. Not often does a little girl from a low-income family in Oklahoma manage to become a law professor at Harvard. That indicates how much natural ability she has, what drive she has, what good people-skills she has.

Elizabeth Warren takes responsibility for her mistakes and learns from them. Read her book and you will see that is her pattern.

And as I said, Elizabeth Warren can bake. That tells me that she is able to think through concrete processes and do the small things that make life good for those around her. Her baking is, you will learn if you read the book, one of the ways that she gives to others. Her books are another way that she shares with others.

I think that Elizabeth Warren has the humility, the patience, the kindness, the understanding of the world, the ability to listen and to empathize, to understand and explain difficult concepts to people without seeming condescending. She does not have an arrogant giggle or laugh. She does not ridicule people who do not understand what she understands. She doesn't scoff at others. Hillary???? Hillary has empathy, sympathy for the unfortunate, but she does not handle those who disagree with her well. Both Hillary and Elizabeth Warren are very competitive women, but Elizabeth Warren is competitive on behalf of ordinary people. That is something unique and wonderful about her. She is competitive to a normal extent about herself, but it isn't exaggerated. She mostly wants to fight for others. I do think based on my own impression of Hillary Clinton that she is not as generous with her respect for others as is Elizabeth Warren.

Elizabeth Warren is a better communicator than Hillary and that is very, very important in a president. There's more but I have said enough for now. I have to fix supper. I'm in California.

Edited to correct typos that changed my meaning. Thanks. good question.

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The Klein article is silent on Caroline Kennedy's preference. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #1
Warren says the story is completely made up. That should be the end of it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #2
That can't be the end! We want her to run even though see said she won't! She used the wrong word! snooper2 Aug 2014 #4
I will not vote for Hillary whether Elizabeth Warren runs or not. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #21
Okay, I'll bite - what makes Elizabeth Warren more qualified than Hillary Clinton? George II Aug 2014 #23
I hope you're not holding your breath ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #51
Nah...it basically was a rhetorical question since there really is no answer. George II Aug 2014 #57
Actually, I'm having trouble writing an answer short enough to fit on DU. Taking a little JDPriestly Aug 2014 #89
In other words wyldwolf Aug 2014 #91
Have you read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #93
Quote the relevant parts wyldwolf Aug 2014 #95
Elizabeth Warren is not a socialist. Read her book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #96
In other words you really can't answer those questions wyldwolf Aug 2014 #98
You should read the book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #99
How many words did you just write? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #100
Why is Hillary qualified, because I dont' think Hillary is qualified. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #103
and then you divert from the question again and write another anti-clinton diatribe wyldwolf Aug 2014 #104
You need to read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #106
back to that again? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #107
What qualifications do you want president to have. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #109
I want you to stop diverting and tell me what Warren's are. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #110
Rather a one-sided conversation. I have written three posts answering your question. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #111
you've written three long diatribes about Clinton, then some touchy feely fanboy Warren stuff wyldwolf Aug 2014 #112
Define "qualifications," please. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #113
those things that make someone suitable for the presidency wyldwolf Aug 2014 #114
Fanboy seriously? davidpdx Aug 2014 #135
Fanboy seriously wyldwolf Aug 2014 #136
Look in the mirror davidpdx Aug 2014 #138
I have and I'm not wyldwolf Aug 2014 #139
Says the person who goes around calling people "fanboy" davidpdx Aug 2014 #140
If your only reason for supporting someone is they make you warm and tingly inside wyldwolf Aug 2014 #141
What relevant things did Barack Obama do before becoming president? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #115
You're STILL avoiding the question! LOL! And now you're dragging Obama into it. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #116
What did Obama or Clinton or Hillary or George W. Bush do legislatively before JDPriestly Aug 2014 #120
This is not about Reagan or Obama wyldwolf Aug 2014 #123
You've replied to the wrong person. NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #122
Here is why I think Elizabeth Warren would have broad appeal. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #128
You are obviously a very devoted Warren advocate ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #132
See my post #89. I give some of my reasons. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #90
can you name a democrat demigoddess Aug 2014 #81
Elizabeth Warren. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #92
Jan Schakowsky PassingFair Aug 2014 #105
Everyone bowing his head to HRC..... mylye2222 Aug 2014 #86
It's gone from love affair BainsBane Aug 2014 #38
Yeah. it's stupid of people to dream Union Scribe Aug 2014 #46
Yes it IS stupid to dream... brooklynite Aug 2014 #72
That's certainly what her press secretary, Ms. Rose, said. Laelth Aug 2014 #15
She certainly knows the main point of the story is false BainsBane Aug 2014 #16
I think she can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #41
Elizabeth Warren knows that it was fabricated, and she told her press secretary. pnwmom Aug 2014 #17
I think Ms. Rose can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #42
She must know then that Warren didn't go up there to sail in their boat pnwmom Aug 2014 #48
But Elizabeth Warren is not silent on the NY Post's article. MineralMan Aug 2014 #3
I have no reason to doubt her Press Secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #6
She knows because her boss, Warren, told her it was completely made up. pnwmom Aug 2014 #18
Maybe because her boss, Elizabeth Warren, told her so? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #26
LOL Bill Clinton has been known to say that DC is a fact-free zone. DURHAM D Aug 2014 #30
Warren also signed a letter to Hillary from female US Senators asking her to run Gman Aug 2014 #8
Yeah, cause when someone talks about Kennedys BainsBane Aug 2014 #37
I don't think Caroline is authorized to speak for her entire family. Laelth Aug 2014 #44
Yet you don't believe Warren? BainsBane Aug 2014 #45
I believe her press secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #47
i wish people would stop smearing Elizabeth Warren by associating her with racist scum like Klein JI7 Aug 2014 #5
Wow...The NY Compost made something up completely! joeybee12 Aug 2014 #7
I know davidpdx Aug 2014 #137
Next it'll be Fox Noise if the article fits their preconceived ideas joeybee12 Aug 2014 #142
I'm a Warren fan and said this article was BS PAProgressive28 Aug 2014 #9
I'm a Warren supporter, too, and would be proud to have her as my President wyldwolf Aug 2014 #11
It really sucks that we have to debunk this shit on DU. William769 Aug 2014 #10
Ed Klein making stuff up? NuclearDem Aug 2014 #12
DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2014 #13
The true progressives, Sid. The true progressives. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #27
Those are REAL DEMOCRATS, Sid Dithers of DU... zappaman Aug 2014 #61
I guess Only REAL DEMOCRATS... SidDithers Aug 2014 #70
That we even had to see that leftynyc Aug 2014 #14
But 90% of DUers believe it! frazzled Aug 2014 #19
Warren 2016 billhicks76 Aug 2014 #20
Clinton 2016 wyldwolf Aug 2014 #28
No Thanks billhicks76 Aug 2014 #49
Yes thank you wyldwolf Aug 2014 #53
I'd Rather Eat My Own Vomit billhicks76 Aug 2014 #58
I'd Rather you eat your own vomit, too, but we can't all get what we want. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #59
Haha But C'mon billhicks76 Aug 2014 #62
haha but C'mon. You live in an echo chamber, in the overwhelming minority on the left wyldwolf Aug 2014 #63
You Seem Very Skilled billhicks76 Aug 2014 #64
I'll bet you don't believe in evolution and climate change, either. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #65
Well I Hope She Loses billhicks76 Aug 2014 #66
Of course you do wyldwolf Aug 2014 #68
Science? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #75
yeah, dude. Science. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #87
You're Funny billhicks76 Aug 2014 #94
You're a fundamentalist wyldwolf Aug 2014 #97
seem being the operative word bobduca Aug 2014 #119
This is not about choosing candidates: it's about posting crap frazzled Aug 2014 #29
Just like Al Gore = George Bush . pnwmom Aug 2014 #36
Isnt That Your Mantra? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #50
Ralph Nader said Bush and Gore were the same: Tweedledum or Tweedledee. pnwmom Aug 2014 #52
I'll Bet billhicks76 Aug 2014 #54
Nader was the only progressive who drew votes from Gore. pnwmom Aug 2014 #56
It's called Karma billhicks76 Aug 2014 #60
After Presidents Bush and Reagan, you're saying that Clinton pushed the country to the right? pnwmom Aug 2014 #67
anxiously awaiting his reply wyldwolf Aug 2014 #69
Keep Laughing billhicks76 Aug 2014 #74
You must have loved it when we lost 2 Presidential elections by 49 states to 1. pnwmom Aug 2014 #76
Stupid Argument billhicks76 Aug 2014 #77
If People Want Republican-Lite billhicks76 Aug 2014 #78
I guess you never heard of George McGovern. Or maybe he wasn't enough of a progressive pnwmom Aug 2014 #79
Hold On Historian billhicks76 Aug 2014 #82
You Say McGovern billhicks76 Aug 2014 #83
Other than a few particular issues, like gay rights, the country isn't more liberal and progressive. pnwmom Aug 2014 #84
That Was Old Right billhicks76 Aug 2014 #85
Don't underestimate the political right. The Gerrymandering is a huge thing and Nate Silver pnwmom Aug 2014 #88
You Don't Understand? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #133
Clinton didn't move the center to the Right. When the Soviet Union collapsed, pnwmom Aug 2014 #134
Exactly!!! Beacool Aug 2014 #121
This message was self-deleted by its author bobduca Aug 2014 #125
If this was in the NY Post, why are the two references, links, from the NY Times and Boston Globe? George II Aug 2014 #22
But the two links calling out another DUer are from the Post Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #24
This is the OP that started the shit storm DURHAM D Aug 2014 #25
42 now. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #43
43 now. Still less than this OP which officially debunks that other one. Number23 Aug 2014 #71
The plain fucking stupid is strong with this thread. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #73
Any new poster linking that guy would get tombstoned. joshcryer Aug 2014 #118
Thanks for the official debunk, wyldwolf. Cha Aug 2014 #31
Hilary Will Have To Renounce and Explain Her Past Association With....... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #32
So you would like to rebuke the Buy America she stood for while she was on the board of Walmart? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #102
And How Many American..... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #117
So you would rather shutter the doors, I don't see your point, how many Americans did it help for Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #124
you dont get the point rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #126
Hillary was a push on Buy America, she is not there any more, Walmart is now getting their products Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #127
Im Sorry rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #129
I would hope the American worker would have someone on their side, guess it is not Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #130
Hilary Cant Say No rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #131
She will not have to do anything. She is blowing everyone away at this point. stevenleser Aug 2014 #108
While I'm one who would love to see Warren run... TDale313 Aug 2014 #33
sulution: El Shaman Aug 2014 #34
somebody cracked the whip DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #35
You can't be serious? BainsBane Aug 2014 #39
Aristocratic Power Family SMACKDOWN! Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #40
i agree - it is highly unlikely that Sen. Warren will run - it is time to stop paying games and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #55
Oh, dear. This'll be a problem in some quarters. MADem Aug 2014 #80
I'm going to vote for Hillary again gwheezie Aug 2014 #101
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