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dkf

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7. The swap has gone through with CDS's triggered.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:13 PM
Apr 2012

NEW YORK—Payouts on a net $3.2 billion of insurance-like contracts designed to protect against losses on Greek sovereign debt have been triggered, after the country forced certain private creditors into its debt restructuring who did not want to accept the terms of the deal, a committee of dealers and investors decided Friday.

The request made early Friday to the special committee of the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, which rules on such matters for the credit-default swaps market, was made following Greece's use of so-called collective-action clauses in its domestic-law bonds.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204603004577271712189185578.html

The Greek government was able to legally strong-arm most of its private bondholders into accepting the debt reduction deal it completed Friday. But next time — and experts predict there will almost certainly be a next time — Greece might have much less leverage.

That’s because as a result of Friday’s deal, the bulk of Athens’s 260.2 billion euros ($341 billion) in remaining government debt will now be held by the International Monetary Fund, the European Central Bank and the individual European nations that have lent Greece money and contributed to the region’s bailout fund.

Politically, Greece would be hard-pressed to force debt losses on such a formidable international group, the way it did with the private banks and hedge funds that have just been forced to accept a 75 percent loss on their Greek bond holdings. Greece’s main creditors, in effect, are now foreign taxpayers — who are likely to be much less malleable than the private creditors if Greece needs to renegotiate its staggering debt load a year or two down the road.

“From now on, whatever happens in Greece, it will be a matter between Greece and the taxpayers of the rest of the euro area,” said Jacob F. Kirkegaard, an analyst at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/10/business/global/greece-debt-restructuring-deal-private-lenders.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

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The vast majority of the bonds were exchanged for a significant haircut. This is outdated info. dkf Apr 2012 #1
Outdated? By how much is it outdated? Did you read the full article? nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #4
The swap has gone through with CDS's triggered. dkf Apr 2012 #7
This kind of economic conflict lead to WWII. It could happen again. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #13
This kind of economic conflict did NOT lead to WWII. British and French guarantees of coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #14
Yes. This kind of economic depression and class differences lead to the rise of Hitler. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #27
I think you are confusing chronological proximity with coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #28
Having lived in Germany and Austria and having discussed this JDPriestly Apr 2012 #29
I would never disparage social history and its various media (such as oral coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #32
Have you read The Lost City by John Gunther? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #33
Have not read that specific work by Gunther. I have read some of his coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #34
The new Standard Strategy of the 1% bongbong Apr 2012 #21
As for the Greek hair stylist... justice1 Apr 2012 #11
With no funds in govt, since they weren't collecting taxes as they ought to have been. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #20
So it's only hedge funds that are holding Greek debt? Sounds like baloney to me. badtoworse Apr 2012 #2
Higher sales taxes? I hope they cheat on that. Zalatix Apr 2012 #3
Greece has already collapsed. This is what an orderly collapse looks like. banned from Kos Apr 2012 #6
Greece is not the problem for the EU that they make it out to be... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #5
Read above...the debts are now mostly held by European taxpayers. dkf Apr 2012 #8
Yes and no. badtoworse Apr 2012 #9
The Problem Is The Solution DallasNE Apr 2012 #10
I'm the furthest thing from an economist the world has ever seen, however... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #25
The expectation of being repaid is an absolutely essential element of any lending arrangement. badtoworse Apr 2012 #26
Not really, Greek tax cheats are mostly the uber wealthy because they have political control. fasttense Apr 2012 #17
They may have a larger impact because they have more income badtoworse Apr 2012 #18
I completely agree. Greece has been a paradise for the mega-rich. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #22
Wasn't that the point of the CIA intervention and the Junta in '67? leveymg Apr 2012 #23
Same old story: the rich versus a true people's democracy, but, of course, Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #24
Also, Greece can't be allowed to default kenny blankenship Apr 2012 #12
And if there's not enough thistle and roadkill, they can always fall coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #15
Any debt that cannot be repaid will not be repaid, and that is a tsuki Apr 2012 #16
Apparently, Greece was collecting a minutiae in taxes, and that's the way the country was run - Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #19
Greece's tax collections were not far out of line with the rest of the Eurozone. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #30
Could you post the chart? It was inadvertently left out. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #31
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