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JDPriestly

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128. Here is why I think Elizabeth Warren would have broad appeal.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 12:53 PM
Aug 2014

Regardless of the Republican propaganda, many of the homeowners and small business owners who lost their homes and businesses or who are having a hard time would listen to Elizabeth Warren's message about reining in the banks, about bank regulation and financial reform, giving little guys, the middle-class people a chance. They like the Tea Party because it pretends to be the in-your-face anti-establishment voice that Elizabeth Warren really is. I think Elizabeth Warren's fresh message could cut through the lies.

That message rises above partisan affiliation. A lot of swing and conservative voters would like to see the Fed taken down a notch. Hillary cannot do that because she is too closely dependent upon and tied to the big corporate, Wall Street crowd and their banks. She served on Walmart's board back when. Good Heavens! And Walmart supports her candidacy. Double Good Heavens.

Elizabeth Warren represents in some respects just common sense aside from party affiliation. Her approach to the economic crisis that we are still in. in spite of good job numbers, is what Americans are looking for, I believe.

Hillary is the bete noire of the Republicans. The Republican hierarchy has tried to damage Elizabeth Warren's reputation, but once she is heard, allowed to speak for herself, they will not get far with that. Warren's message is clearly aimed at the middle class. And those are the voters who could be persuaded in numbers large enough to win an election, to vote Democratic for a change, if they hear Warren's optimistic, strong ideas about financial reform. Elizabeth Warren is the ideal candidate to attract small business owners. Hillary, nor at all. Hillary is indelibly linked to the Bill Clinton/Al Gore Democratic Party.

I hear where you are coming from. The Republican smear machine is a force to be reckoned with. But Elizabeth Warren, I think would hold her own. She is from Oklahoma and lived in Texas. She can deal with the conservative mentality. That's what she was raised with. Her ideas are based on her research on why people file for bankruptcy. She doesn't just feel the pain of ordinary Americans. She has analyzed it, charted it on a spread sheet and knows how to fix it.

Hillary doesn't. Sorry. But Hillary's life has been devoted to politics. And right now, the last thing we need, maybe the last person Americans will get excited enough about to vote for, is a political hack. I'm afraid that is what Hillary has become.

Besides, Hillary's delivery in her speeches is dry and her tone is too controlled. She does not make a good candidate. She does too much of what is expected and not enough of what she really is. Elizabeth Warren comes across as sincere. Hillary does not.

We've been here before: George W. Bush came across as sincere to a lot of voters. (He wasn't.) Al Gore came across as stiff and not himself. (He was just maybe a little shy.)

Hillary has a way of laughing and acting condescending. It comes across as arrogant. She strikes me as the girl who was first in class and never wanted anyone to forget that. As one who was never the first in my class, I know how much the rest of us disliked that girl. Teacher's pet. That isn't fair, and it isn't kind on my part, but that is how most everyone else in the class feels.

Elizabeth Warren was the first in class, but she went to the local college and never got a big head about it. She won debates because she fought harder than anyone else because she knew she didn't have a new dress or expensive shoes and needed to prove herself. Elizabeth Warren is very much on the same wavelength as Americans who are trying to climb up and out of debt, pay off student loans, car loans, house loans and can't seem to ever get anywhere. I don't think Hillary can really understand that at all.

If you read Elizabeth Warren's book, you may agree with me that her life is a fight for her mother and father. She didn't feel they got a fair deal and she has tried to make that right for the rest of her life. She sees her mother and father in all the ordinary Americans who are not getting a fair deal. That is what I see as her story, and that is why I think she would make such a good president. She would fight for and put first the interests of ordinary Americans.

It isn't a matter of whether Elizabeth Warren is poor or rich. It is a matter of the fact that Elizabeth Warren understands that the playing field in the American economy is very much rigged for the rich. Because of her expertise on that issue, Warren knows what to do to even that field out a bit. Hillary doesn't. And Hillary would not dare do anything to hurt her big donors. Hillary has a lot of money for her campaign, don't ask where it comes from.

I remember traveling in Hungary during the 1960s. We stopped in what we thought would be a good place to eat. There hall was lined with long tables. I don't remember how we got our plates filled, but you just sat where there was a free chair at one of these long tables. We took a few bites and didn't know what we were eating. So my husband asked in German what the meat was. The man across from us, an older man, laughed and said,, "Better not ask." Better not ask is a good rule to follow when it comes to Hillary's donors. Better not ask. If you belong to a labor union or prefer to bank at a credit union or think the tuition is to high in your state university or would prefer single payer or at least public option insurance, want bank regulations to be better enforced, want more scrutiny on Wall Street, want some research done on the effects of charter schools or whatever, better not ask who Hillary's donors are.

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The Klein article is silent on Caroline Kennedy's preference. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #1
Warren says the story is completely made up. That should be the end of it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #2
That can't be the end! We want her to run even though see said she won't! She used the wrong word! snooper2 Aug 2014 #4
I will not vote for Hillary whether Elizabeth Warren runs or not. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #21
Okay, I'll bite - what makes Elizabeth Warren more qualified than Hillary Clinton? George II Aug 2014 #23
I hope you're not holding your breath ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #51
Nah...it basically was a rhetorical question since there really is no answer. George II Aug 2014 #57
Actually, I'm having trouble writing an answer short enough to fit on DU. Taking a little JDPriestly Aug 2014 #89
In other words wyldwolf Aug 2014 #91
Have you read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #93
Quote the relevant parts wyldwolf Aug 2014 #95
Elizabeth Warren is not a socialist. Read her book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #96
In other words you really can't answer those questions wyldwolf Aug 2014 #98
You should read the book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #99
How many words did you just write? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #100
Why is Hillary qualified, because I dont' think Hillary is qualified. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #103
and then you divert from the question again and write another anti-clinton diatribe wyldwolf Aug 2014 #104
You need to read Elizabeth Warren's book. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #106
back to that again? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #107
What qualifications do you want president to have. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #109
I want you to stop diverting and tell me what Warren's are. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #110
Rather a one-sided conversation. I have written three posts answering your question. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #111
you've written three long diatribes about Clinton, then some touchy feely fanboy Warren stuff wyldwolf Aug 2014 #112
Define "qualifications," please. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #113
those things that make someone suitable for the presidency wyldwolf Aug 2014 #114
Fanboy seriously? davidpdx Aug 2014 #135
Fanboy seriously wyldwolf Aug 2014 #136
Look in the mirror davidpdx Aug 2014 #138
I have and I'm not wyldwolf Aug 2014 #139
Says the person who goes around calling people "fanboy" davidpdx Aug 2014 #140
If your only reason for supporting someone is they make you warm and tingly inside wyldwolf Aug 2014 #141
What relevant things did Barack Obama do before becoming president? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #115
You're STILL avoiding the question! LOL! And now you're dragging Obama into it. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #116
What did Obama or Clinton or Hillary or George W. Bush do legislatively before JDPriestly Aug 2014 #120
This is not about Reagan or Obama wyldwolf Aug 2014 #123
You've replied to the wrong person. NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #122
Here is why I think Elizabeth Warren would have broad appeal. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #128
You are obviously a very devoted Warren advocate ... NanceGreggs Aug 2014 #132
See my post #89. I give some of my reasons. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #90
can you name a democrat demigoddess Aug 2014 #81
Elizabeth Warren. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #92
Jan Schakowsky PassingFair Aug 2014 #105
Everyone bowing his head to HRC..... mylye2222 Aug 2014 #86
It's gone from love affair BainsBane Aug 2014 #38
Yeah. it's stupid of people to dream Union Scribe Aug 2014 #46
Yes it IS stupid to dream... brooklynite Aug 2014 #72
That's certainly what her press secretary, Ms. Rose, said. Laelth Aug 2014 #15
She certainly knows the main point of the story is false BainsBane Aug 2014 #16
I think she can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #41
Elizabeth Warren knows that it was fabricated, and she told her press secretary. pnwmom Aug 2014 #17
I think Ms. Rose can safely speak for Elizabeth Warren. Laelth Aug 2014 #42
She must know then that Warren didn't go up there to sail in their boat pnwmom Aug 2014 #48
But Elizabeth Warren is not silent on the NY Post's article. MineralMan Aug 2014 #3
I have no reason to doubt her Press Secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #6
She knows because her boss, Warren, told her it was completely made up. pnwmom Aug 2014 #18
Maybe because her boss, Elizabeth Warren, told her so? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #26
LOL Bill Clinton has been known to say that DC is a fact-free zone. DURHAM D Aug 2014 #30
Warren also signed a letter to Hillary from female US Senators asking her to run Gman Aug 2014 #8
Yeah, cause when someone talks about Kennedys BainsBane Aug 2014 #37
I don't think Caroline is authorized to speak for her entire family. Laelth Aug 2014 #44
Yet you don't believe Warren? BainsBane Aug 2014 #45
I believe her press secretary, Ms. Rose. Laelth Aug 2014 #47
i wish people would stop smearing Elizabeth Warren by associating her with racist scum like Klein JI7 Aug 2014 #5
Wow...The NY Compost made something up completely! joeybee12 Aug 2014 #7
I know davidpdx Aug 2014 #137
Next it'll be Fox Noise if the article fits their preconceived ideas joeybee12 Aug 2014 #142
I'm a Warren fan and said this article was BS PAProgressive28 Aug 2014 #9
I'm a Warren supporter, too, and would be proud to have her as my President wyldwolf Aug 2014 #11
It really sucks that we have to debunk this shit on DU. William769 Aug 2014 #10
Ed Klein making stuff up? NuclearDem Aug 2014 #12
DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2014 #13
The true progressives, Sid. The true progressives. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #27
Those are REAL DEMOCRATS, Sid Dithers of DU... zappaman Aug 2014 #61
I guess Only REAL DEMOCRATS... SidDithers Aug 2014 #70
That we even had to see that leftynyc Aug 2014 #14
But 90% of DUers believe it! frazzled Aug 2014 #19
Warren 2016 billhicks76 Aug 2014 #20
Clinton 2016 wyldwolf Aug 2014 #28
No Thanks billhicks76 Aug 2014 #49
Yes thank you wyldwolf Aug 2014 #53
I'd Rather Eat My Own Vomit billhicks76 Aug 2014 #58
I'd Rather you eat your own vomit, too, but we can't all get what we want. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #59
Haha But C'mon billhicks76 Aug 2014 #62
haha but C'mon. You live in an echo chamber, in the overwhelming minority on the left wyldwolf Aug 2014 #63
You Seem Very Skilled billhicks76 Aug 2014 #64
I'll bet you don't believe in evolution and climate change, either. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #65
Well I Hope She Loses billhicks76 Aug 2014 #66
Of course you do wyldwolf Aug 2014 #68
Science? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #75
yeah, dude. Science. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #87
You're Funny billhicks76 Aug 2014 #94
You're a fundamentalist wyldwolf Aug 2014 #97
seem being the operative word bobduca Aug 2014 #119
This is not about choosing candidates: it's about posting crap frazzled Aug 2014 #29
Just like Al Gore = George Bush . pnwmom Aug 2014 #36
Isnt That Your Mantra? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #50
Ralph Nader said Bush and Gore were the same: Tweedledum or Tweedledee. pnwmom Aug 2014 #52
I'll Bet billhicks76 Aug 2014 #54
Nader was the only progressive who drew votes from Gore. pnwmom Aug 2014 #56
It's called Karma billhicks76 Aug 2014 #60
After Presidents Bush and Reagan, you're saying that Clinton pushed the country to the right? pnwmom Aug 2014 #67
anxiously awaiting his reply wyldwolf Aug 2014 #69
Keep Laughing billhicks76 Aug 2014 #74
You must have loved it when we lost 2 Presidential elections by 49 states to 1. pnwmom Aug 2014 #76
Stupid Argument billhicks76 Aug 2014 #77
If People Want Republican-Lite billhicks76 Aug 2014 #78
I guess you never heard of George McGovern. Or maybe he wasn't enough of a progressive pnwmom Aug 2014 #79
Hold On Historian billhicks76 Aug 2014 #82
You Say McGovern billhicks76 Aug 2014 #83
Other than a few particular issues, like gay rights, the country isn't more liberal and progressive. pnwmom Aug 2014 #84
That Was Old Right billhicks76 Aug 2014 #85
Don't underestimate the political right. The Gerrymandering is a huge thing and Nate Silver pnwmom Aug 2014 #88
You Don't Understand? billhicks76 Aug 2014 #133
Clinton didn't move the center to the Right. When the Soviet Union collapsed, pnwmom Aug 2014 #134
Exactly!!! Beacool Aug 2014 #121
This message was self-deleted by its author bobduca Aug 2014 #125
If this was in the NY Post, why are the two references, links, from the NY Times and Boston Globe? George II Aug 2014 #22
But the two links calling out another DUer are from the Post Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #24
This is the OP that started the shit storm DURHAM D Aug 2014 #25
42 now. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #43
43 now. Still less than this OP which officially debunks that other one. Number23 Aug 2014 #71
The plain fucking stupid is strong with this thread. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #73
Any new poster linking that guy would get tombstoned. joshcryer Aug 2014 #118
Thanks for the official debunk, wyldwolf. Cha Aug 2014 #31
Hilary Will Have To Renounce and Explain Her Past Association With....... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #32
So you would like to rebuke the Buy America she stood for while she was on the board of Walmart? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #102
And How Many American..... rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #117
So you would rather shutter the doors, I don't see your point, how many Americans did it help for Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #124
you dont get the point rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #126
Hillary was a push on Buy America, she is not there any more, Walmart is now getting their products Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #127
Im Sorry rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #129
I would hope the American worker would have someone on their side, guess it is not Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #130
Hilary Cant Say No rsmith6621 Aug 2014 #131
She will not have to do anything. She is blowing everyone away at this point. stevenleser Aug 2014 #108
While I'm one who would love to see Warren run... TDale313 Aug 2014 #33
sulution: El Shaman Aug 2014 #34
somebody cracked the whip DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #35
You can't be serious? BainsBane Aug 2014 #39
Aristocratic Power Family SMACKDOWN! Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #40
i agree - it is highly unlikely that Sen. Warren will run - it is time to stop paying games and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #55
Oh, dear. This'll be a problem in some quarters. MADem Aug 2014 #80
I'm going to vote for Hillary again gwheezie Aug 2014 #101
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