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stevenleser

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40. Idiot-boy's war crime made it our responsibility. We screwed that country.

Fri Aug 8, 2014, 01:19 PM

Aug 2014

ISIS and the crimes they are committing would not be happening without the US's 2003 invasion.

We can stay out of a lot of things regarding Iraq, including a generalized civil war and degeneration into a failed state, but not a genocide in the making that is our fault.

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US forces in combat in Iraq again (not related to genocide threat) [View all] morningfog Aug 2014 OP

What US personnel are in Erbil? Are they at the Mosul Dam? morningfog Aug 2014 #1

You don't think we should protect our personnel in Erbil? TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #2

We shouldn't have any personnel there. morningfog Aug 2014 #4

But we do. Diplomatic personnel and military advisors were moved there. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #6

we're not supposed to have diplomatic relations with the Kurds? renegade000 Aug 2014 #8

So we bomb anywhere anytime there is a threat "near" a US consulate? morningfog Aug 2014 #13

well, i guess we can have Erbil become the new Benghazi renegade000 Aug 2014 #24

Erbil houses our diplomatic mission to the Kurdish Autonomous Region. Laelth Aug 2014 #53

Like Money, Sir, Destruction Of Military Assets Is Fungible The Magistrate Aug 2014 #3

I didn't suggest it wasn't. morningfog Aug 2014 #5

Then No Point In Hinting At 'Bait And Switch' In A Header, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #10

I just want to keep track of the reasons for our attacks. morningfog Aug 2014 #14

"Near U.S. personnel" is obtuse and ever so fungible.....no debating the wide latitude that gives. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #9

Alas, the range of modern artillery makes it less obtuse and fungible.nt stevenleser Aug 2014 #18

I notice the advancements in military hardware also, the better it gets the more civilians die. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #20

certainly within the President's order bigtree Aug 2014 #17

We Can Speak Clearly, Sir, I Expect, To One Another The Magistrate Aug 2014 #22

that's a reasonable expectation bigtree Aug 2014 #27

When It Comes To Cases, Sir, 'Peshmerga' Are Green The Magistrate Aug 2014 #29

again, a reasonable view. Thank you for your answers bigtree Aug 2014 #34

The Kurds were stretched thin in the area while building a new border.. EX500rider Aug 2014 #39

thanks for that perspective bigtree Aug 2014 #44

America is using "near U.S.personell" as the justification for air strikes, eh? Kind of like reverse Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #7

Except That Is Not What Is Being done, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #11

The power not to get a joke and turn ones own misunderstanding into a treatise is what is cynical. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #12

Bob Would Be Ashamed Of You, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #15

So Bob's your uncle? Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #16

Sold My Soul Long Ago, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #19

This OP should be titled "I'm hunting for a reason to be outraged" stevenleser Aug 2014 #21

I don't think that's fair bigtree Aug 2014 #23

If those supporting it were reaching in their justifications like this, they would deserve similar stevenleser Aug 2014 #26

This is not our fight. morningfog Aug 2014 #28

It is our fight....see below. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #33

Idiot-boy's war crime made it our responsibility. We screwed that country. stevenleser Aug 2014 #40

We rightfully withdrew our troops. We should stay out. morningfog Aug 2014 #45

it's not bullshit Steve bigtree Aug 2014 #30

This OP attempts to assert that we are going outside of the President's announced boundaries last stevenleser Aug 2014 #41

the only manufactured outrage I see is your own bigtree Aug 2014 #43

I'm sure most people can see the OP for what it is. An attempt to Manufacture Outrage. nt stevenleser Aug 2014 #46

give it a fucking rest bigtree Aug 2014 #47

Feel free to trash it steve. No deleting, no reason to. morningfog Aug 2014 #25

no reason to delete, at all, morningfog bigtree Aug 2014 #31

You know, I got arrested outside the fucking Iraqi Embassy in the 1980's protesting msanthrope Aug 2014 #32

This is not the 1980s, not chemical weapons, not Saddam Hussein morningfog Aug 2014 #35

It's still Kurdistan, and you know what? Taking out ISIS artillery is the most humane msanthrope Aug 2014 #37

I am opposing the renewed use if the US military morningfog Aug 2014 #38

Hey....morningfog....taking out artillery aimed at civilians IS true humanitarianism. msanthrope Aug 2014 #42

But that isn't the proffered justification. It is to protect US personnel and facilities "near" morningfog Aug 2014 #48

Yes....who do you think is delivering the aid? You take out the artillery so that msanthrope Aug 2014 #51

Missing the point I think RunInCircles Aug 2014 #36

Yeah, we're bombing ISIS to protect Erbil and not the Yazidi's stranded on Mt Sinjar neverforget Aug 2014 #49

Even more, we are protecting US interests in Erbil and nothing more. morningfog Aug 2014 #50

K&R Watch what they do, not what they say. woo me with science Aug 2014 #52

Important OP. Kick. woo me with science Aug 2014 #54

kick woo me with science Aug 2014 #55