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37. No, it isn't complicated, TBH.

Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:46 PM

Aug 2014

"Social justice circuit", really? Mikki Kendall is awesome, if she got into your chops over racism, that just serves to propel her even higher in my estimation, TBH.

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In America, do we need the approval of white people to conclude that something is racist? [View all] CreekDog Aug 2014 OP

Does racism apply to all people or just some? Rex Aug 2014 #1

I think the OP means agreement. Do victims of racism need racists to agree that racism has TheDebbieDee Aug 2014 #34

Approval of white people? randys1 Aug 2014 #2

Uh oh, what did you do? JaneyVee Aug 2014 #3

It's called opening your mind and THINKING and LISTENING alp227 Aug 2014 #4

what? CreekDog Aug 2014 #7

why seek permission from white people to call something racist? alp227 Aug 2014 #8

facepalm CreekDog Aug 2014 #9

So what's your argument here? nt alp227 Aug 2014 #10

We pretty much need permission of white people to do anything Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #5

No. We need objectively verifiable criteria. redgreenandblue Aug 2014 #6

Not how it often works. Igel Aug 2014 #11

hmm. a lot to think about. redgreenandblue Aug 2014 #13

If I recall, disparate impact has never been tested by the Supreme Court tritsofme Aug 2014 #20

You would think racism would be obvious to everyone. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #15

I will say this: It *requires* ALL OF US, as a community. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #12

Ugh. Squinch Aug 2014 #14

How clueless and self-centered. kwassa Aug 2014 #21

One group (white people) already dominates. That is the problem. Starry Messenger Aug 2014 #23

Well, not quite entirely, TBH. It gets complicated. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #32

No, it isn't complicated, TBH. Starry Messenger Aug 2014 #37

Well, alright. You have your opinion, and I have mine, I suppose. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #39

so racism went away mostly, four or five years ago? CreekDog Aug 2014 #38

"so racism went away mostly, four or five years ago?" Not what I said. Or implied. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #41

Personally, I don't need anyone's "approval" to decide whether or not something is racist. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #16

you mean where white DUers tell nonwhite DUers that things aren't racist? CreekDog Aug 2014 #17

Most of the time I don't even know what race DUers are. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #19

Good point. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #26

you can conclude anything you want to be racist Enrique Aug 2014 #18

Apparently on this site, we do. Check out this exchange, where msanthrope Aug 2014 #22

ugh CreekDog Aug 2014 #25

Does it not illustrate your point, perfectly? And I like those threads very much, but for msanthrope Aug 2014 #27

I think it's an example of what I'm talking about CreekDog Aug 2014 #31

That's exactly what floored me. Ted Rall draws the President like an ape, but this is msanthrope Aug 2014 #36

it should floor you CreekDog Aug 2014 #40

Not a fan of Ted Rall(huge "white privilege" guy for one), but it would seem that..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #43

white people need to hear other white people call out racism. yorgatron Aug 2014 #24

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #30

More than that, we need to call out racism and other prejudices, no matter whom it comes from. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Boomerproud Aug 2014 #28

As white people WE need to identify WHITE racists, otherwise orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #29

Nah. They just think we do. Iggo Aug 2014 #33

And, sadly, there's a few out there who think vice-versa. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #42