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In reply to the discussion: The Dumpster Fire of Obama's Moral Authority [View all]NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... I said:
"Torture is never justified, regardless of the reasons one engages in it. Whether it is the result of some altruistic motive or simple sadism, the fact remains that it is wrong.
If you torture a fellow human being, your reasons for doing so can never negate the fact that you have done something reprehensible. In those circumstances, no "reason" can ever be held out as an "excuse".
But of course - DU being what it is these days - those comments were immediately taken as a "rationalization of torture". But that's typical DU fare these days - a statement that "torture is never justified" gets translated into "excusing torture". The mind boggles.
My position on the use of torture has never changed - and my recent statement that it is never justified is in keeping with that long-held position. But DU has come to the point where what anyone says in plain English is to be "interpreted" as meaning the exact opposite, depending on who said it.
The die was cast the night you slammed Obama's SOTU speech as being an attempt to glorify war by inviting a visibly disabled and disfigured soldier to be in attendance. (Because common sense dictates that if you want to glorify war, the best way to do so is to NOT invite a handsome, unscathed military man to the SOTU, but instead invite someone whose very appearance demonstrates the cost of war in no uncertain terms.)
That OP garnered recs galore, and thousands of views. And you haven't laid off the anti-Obama
OPs since. Even your own failure to investigate medical insurance policies to ensure that your wife's medications were covered was "all Obama's fault", instead of your own.
As I said, you came to know which side of the DU bread is the buttered side - and you have been playing to the "buttered side" ever since. You now know that any OP that even remotely acknowledges anything positive about Obama or his administration will die a quick death, instead of generating click-throughs to Truthout. You know that the Obama supporters on DU are a minority as compared to the anti-Obaman majority - and you have chosen to appeal to the majority, where the "recs and click-throughs" can be counted on.
"Farewell, old friend. I once respected you." You "respected me" when I agreed with you. You no longer "respect" me - or anyone else - who doesn't agree with you. That much is obvious - and the fact that you think it isn't obvious speaks for itself.