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In reply to the discussion: Are you really ready for another war in Iraq? [View all]bigtree
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. . .Bush's own intelligence agencies concluded that our presence and activity had the effect of fostering, creating, more terrorists than he was putting down, and we know how many Iraqis were killed as a direct result of, or as a consequence of his invasion and occupation.
What makes this President think his military action will have a different effect?
There are several other nations already participating in air defense in Iraq which are not only suited to the task but actually have a direct stake in the outcome of such action.
Who Else, Besides Americans, Are Flying Fighter Jets in Iraq?
____ The Iraqi Air Force is poorly equipped, consisting of several Cessna planes carrying American-supplied Hellfire missiles, some American- and Russian-supplied helicopters, and Russian-made Su-25 aircraft.
Garrett Khoury, the director of research at The Eastern Project, explained that the Iraqi Air Force "recently acquired around a dozen SU-25 ground attack aircraft from Russia (with more possibly coming from Belarus) ...which give them the ability to conduct serious ground-support operations.
" are Russian jets bearing Iraqi insignia, but possibly piloted by Russians," Khoury continued. "Iraq did use the SU-25 during the Saddam Hussein era, and there are probably former Iraqi pilots who flew them, but it has been at best 12 years since any Iraqi pilot got any significant flying time with the plane."
So who bombed ISIS on Thursday night?
The most probable answer is Iraqi Su-25s, manned by Russian or Iraniansor maybe Iraqis . . .
. . . Turkish F-16s were reportedly patrolling the skies over the area near Sinjar in northern Iraq, where about 50,000 Yezidis are starving after fleeing ISIS militants.
"Iran has used its own Air Force to attack ISIS since the beginning of the group's offensive, but mostly to keep them away from the Iranian border," Khoury said. "Syria has likewise conducted air strikes on ISIS targets on the Iraqi side of their shared border . . ."
read more: http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/08/08/who_else_besides_americans_are_flying_fighter_jets_in_iraq.html
Why the hell does the US insist we're the only ones, or that we have to make such overt, direct military strikes while others in that region are either discouraged or dissuaded by U.S. policy (Syria, Iran, Russia) from doing the job; especially knowing the counterproductive and inflammatory role our country has already experienced there?