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In reply to the discussion: Hamas could have chosen peace. Instead, it made Gaza suffer. [View all]Spider Jerusalem
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From every West Bank Palestinian village, from every reservoir and power grid that is for Jews only; apartheid screams from every demolished tent encampment and every verdict of the military court; from every nighttime arrest, every checkpoint, every eviction order and every settlement home. No, Israel is not an apartheid state, but for nearly 50 years an apartheid regime has ruled its occupied territories. Those who want to continue to live a lie, to repress and to deny are invited to visit Hebron. No honest, decent person could return without admitting the existence of apartheid. Those who fear that politically incorrect word have only to walk for a few minutes down Shuhada Street, with its segregated road and sidewalks, and their fear of using the forbidden word will vanish without a trace.
The history of the conflict is filled with forbidden words. Once upon a time, it was forbidden to say Palestinians was forbidden, after that came the prohibitions against saying occupation, war crime, colonialism or binational state. Now apartheid is prohibited.
The forbidden words paralyze debate. Did you let the word apartheid slip out? The truth is no longer important. But no political correctness or bowdlerization, however sanctimonious, can conceal reality forever. And the reality is an occupation regime of apartheid.
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.588252
The history of the conflict is filled with forbidden words. Once upon a time, it was forbidden to say Palestinians was forbidden, after that came the prohibitions against saying occupation, war crime, colonialism or binational state. Now apartheid is prohibited.
The forbidden words paralyze debate. Did you let the word apartheid slip out? The truth is no longer important. But no political correctness or bowdlerization, however sanctimonious, can conceal reality forever. And the reality is an occupation regime of apartheid.
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.588252
The most accurate way to describe Israel today is as an apartheid state. For more than 42 years, Israel has controlled the land between the Jordan Valley and the Mediterranean Sea. Within this region about 6 million Jews and close to 5 million Palestinians reside. Out of this population, 3.5 million Palestinians and almost half a million Jews live in the areas Israel occupied in 1967, and yet while these two groups live in the same area, they are subjected to totally different legal systems. The Palestinians are stateless and lack many of the most basic human rights. By sharp contrast, all Jews -- whether they live in the occupied territories or in Israel -- are citizens of the state of Israel.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/20/opinion/oe-gordon20
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/20/opinion/oe-gordon20
Most of the Jewish public in Israel supports the establishment of an apartheid regime in Israel if it formally annexes the West Bank.
A majority also explicitly favors discrimination against the state's Arab citizens, a survey shows.
The survey, conducted by Dialog on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, exposes anti-Arab, ultra-nationalist views espoused by a majority of Israeli Jews. The survey was commissioned by the Yisraela Goldblum Fund and is based on a sample of 503 interviewees.
The questions were written by a group of academia-based peace and civil rights activists. Dialog is headed by Tel Aviv University Prof. Camil Fuchs.
The majority of the Jewish public, 59 percent, wants preference for Jews over Arabs in admission to jobs in government ministries. Almost half the Jews, 49 percent, want the state to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones; 42 percent don't want to live in the same building with Arabs and 42 percent don't want their children in the same class with Arab children.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/survey-most-israeli-jews-wouldn-t-give-palestinians-vote-if-west-bank-was-annexed.premium-1.471644
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well if you don't accept the history from the standpoint of a former Israeli Foreign Minister
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#45
It's disappointing the evidence that is rejected out of hand..especially in this case. n/t
Jefferson23
Aug 2014
#46
It is an indication of how much effort is placed on the propaganda for this conflict...fierce. n/t
Jefferson23
Aug 2014
#69
NYT April 22, 1948:The Arabs agreed to leave Haifa by sea as a surrender condition to Zionist forces
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2014
#55
Not at all. The claim is a hateful fraud and part of a malicious propaganda campaign.
Fozzledick
Aug 2014
#10
Please. Whatever you tell yourself you are doing, you routinely personally attack DUers.
morningfog
Aug 2014
#13
I think the more apt question is, how close does a country need to get to that definiton before
Jefferson23
Aug 2014
#68
Petition asking White House to defund ‘apartheid’ Israel surpasses 100K signatures
4now
Aug 2014
#33
Nor would it be happening if Hamas didn't spend the early 2000s blowing up Israeli civilians
oberliner
Aug 2014
#18
Clawing our way back to the earlier 2000's eh? The "Bulldozer/Butcher" Sharon legacy
Purveyor
Aug 2014
#23
You mean the Palestinians could have given in to Israeli occupation and brutalization.
BillZBubb
Aug 2014
#22
Because killing is never right and it never leads to anything but more killing. nt
Live and Learn
Aug 2014
#35