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Spider Jerusalem

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Fri Aug 8, 2014, 10:28 PM
Aug 2014
From every West Bank Palestinian village, from every reservoir and power grid that is for Jews only; apartheid screams from every demolished tent encampment and every verdict of the military court; from every nighttime arrest, every checkpoint, every eviction order and every settlement home. No, Israel is not an apartheid state, but for nearly 50 years an apartheid regime has ruled its occupied territories. Those who want to continue to live a lie, to repress and to deny are invited to visit Hebron. No honest, decent person could return without admitting the existence of apartheid. Those who fear that politically incorrect word have only to walk for a few minutes down Shuhada Street, with its segregated road and sidewalks, and their fear of using the forbidden word will vanish without a trace.

The history of the conflict is filled with forbidden words. Once upon a time, it was forbidden to say “Palestinians” was forbidden, after that came the prohibitions against saying “occupation,” “war crime,” “colonialism” or “binational state.” Now “apartheid” is prohibited.

The forbidden words paralyze debate. Did you let the word “apartheid” slip out? The truth is no longer important. But no political correctness or bowdlerization, however sanctimonious, can conceal reality forever. And the reality is an occupation regime of apartheid.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.588252


The most accurate way to describe Israel today is as an apartheid state. For more than 42 years, Israel has controlled the land between the Jordan Valley and the Mediterranean Sea. Within this region about 6 million Jews and close to 5 million Palestinians reside. Out of this population, 3.5 million Palestinians and almost half a million Jews live in the areas Israel occupied in 1967, and yet while these two groups live in the same area, they are subjected to totally different legal systems. The Palestinians are stateless and lack many of the most basic human rights. By sharp contrast, all Jews -- whether they live in the occupied territories or in Israel -- are citizens of the state of Israel.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/20/opinion/oe-gordon20


Most of the Jewish public in Israel supports the establishment of an apartheid regime in Israel if it formally annexes the West Bank.

A majority also explicitly favors discrimination against the state's Arab citizens, a survey shows.

The survey, conducted by Dialog on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, exposes anti-Arab, ultra-nationalist views espoused by a majority of Israeli Jews. The survey was commissioned by the Yisraela Goldblum Fund and is based on a sample of 503 interviewees.

The questions were written by a group of academia-based peace and civil rights activists. Dialog is headed by Tel Aviv University Prof. Camil Fuchs.

The majority of the Jewish public, 59 percent, wants preference for Jews over Arabs in admission to jobs in government ministries. Almost half the Jews, 49 percent, want the state to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones; 42 percent don't want to live in the same building with Arabs and 42 percent don't want their children in the same class with Arab children.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/survey-most-israeli-jews-wouldn-t-give-palestinians-vote-if-west-bank-was-annexed.premium-1.471644

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Israel could have chosen not to murder it's neighbors children 4now Aug 2014 #1
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #4
Indeed oberliner Aug 2014 #16
Precisely! BillZBubb Aug 2014 #21
The Hamas apologists blaming Israel for Hamas atrocities is pathetic. former9thward Aug 2014 #25
Give both sides... RedFury Aug 2014 #30
The Arab militaries were well armed by the Soviet Union. former9thward Aug 2014 #41
Israel drove 80% of the population out of Palestine in 1948 AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #31
No, they did not drive "80% of the population" out. former9thward Aug 2014 #40
that is simply NOT true! Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #43
That book is a score settling book. former9thward Aug 2014 #44
well if you don't accept the history from the standpoint of a former Israeli Foreign Minister Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #45
It's disappointing the evidence that is rejected out of hand..especially in this case. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #46
exactly MFM008 Aug 2014 #67
It is an indication of how much effort is placed on the propaganda for this conflict...fierce. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #69
We can trade quotes all day. former9thward Aug 2014 #52
NYT April 22, 1948:The Arabs agreed to leave Haifa by sea as a surrender condition to Zionist forces Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #55
Ironically, this incident is what led to the famous Blue Meany Aug 2014 #61
You actually believe this? AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #48
Nope Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #50
See post #52. former9thward Aug 2014 #54
Sorry, but that refers very specifically to the single town of Haifa. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #56
Then why didn't they come back AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #57
They have been hoping for generations to come back as conquers. former9thward Aug 2014 #60
You actually believe this? AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #63
Do you have "You actually believe this?" cut/paste in your computer? former9thward Aug 2014 #64
Shame AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #65
To someone whose content in posts is "lol" former9thward Aug 2014 #66
Hamas apologists denying Israel's right to exist - right here. appal_jack Aug 2014 #47
Nope Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #51
Show where Israel affirms Palestine's right to exist AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #59
Israel could have had peace over a decade ago. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #2
Date on that article is May 2001 oberliner Aug 2014 #17
And? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #19
Until Fatah leaders were murdered in Gaza by Hamas. former9thward Aug 2014 #26
Had a deal been made, Hamas would have continued to ramp up attacks oberliner Aug 2014 #38
None of this would be happening if israel was not practicing apartheid against Purveyor Aug 2014 #3
Whenever I see someone use the fraudulent "apartheid" propaganda meme Fozzledick Aug 2014 #5
You seem to have a hard time focusing on the issue rather than the DUer. morningfog Aug 2014 #6
Not at all. The claim is a hateful fraud and part of a malicious propaganda campaign. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #10
Please. Whatever you tell yourself you are doing, you routinely personally attack DUers. morningfog Aug 2014 #13
Thank you. Bohunk68 Aug 2014 #39
That's desperation in all its glory. I would worry I was being thorough if it Purveyor Aug 2014 #11
after watching the excellent documentary "roadmap to apartheid" m-lekktor Aug 2014 #9
That is a very interesting looking documentary trailer 4now Aug 2014 #15
... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #12
if it isn't apartheid... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2014 #24
I think the more apt question is, how close does a country need to get to that definiton before Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #68
Might as well RedFury Aug 2014 #32
The willfully blind and unabashed pro-Hamas support around this place is stunning. LTX Aug 2014 #36
Apartheid AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #49
The world is standing up to Isreali apartheid 4now Aug 2014 #14
The world is not. former9thward Aug 2014 #27
APARTHEID enid602 Aug 2014 #28
Petition asking White House to defund ‘apartheid’ Israel surpasses 100K signatures 4now Aug 2014 #33
100k Israel haters out of 315 million. former9thward Aug 2014 #42
The perfect microcosm.... catnhatnh Aug 2014 #62
Nor would it be happening if Hamas didn't spend the early 2000s blowing up Israeli civilians oberliner Aug 2014 #18
Clawing our way back to the earlier 2000's eh? The "Bulldozer/Butcher" Sharon legacy Purveyor Aug 2014 #23
I think you misunderstood oberliner Aug 2014 #37
The absence of war weakens Hamas. Throd Aug 2014 #7
No RobertEarl Aug 2014 #20
Likud could not accept the Palestinian Unity government. End of story. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #8
You mean the Palestinians could have given in to Israeli occupation and brutalization. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #22
Sometimes, both sides are wrong. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #29
Why,exactly RedFury Aug 2014 #34
Because killing is never right and it never leads to anything but more killing. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #35
if i lived there i would prob be a member of hamas--so hate me dembotoz Aug 2014 #53
I'm sorry that I broke your fist with my nose... kentuck Aug 2014 #58
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