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MineralMan

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107. Pellet air rifles are not toy guns.

Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:38 AM

Aug 2014

They're real guns. Crosman variable pump air rifles fire a .177 caliber pellet at up to 750 feet per second. Not toys by any definition.

The police overreacted, but this was not a toy gun.

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Police fatally shoot man holding an air rifle in Walmart toy aisle [View all] LiberalElite Aug 2014 OP

Unbelievable. What the @#$%? MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #1

Every inch of Walmart stores is likely video recorded. Hoppy Aug 2014 #2

I thought you had to shoot someone restrained in an ambulance for the instant promotion? DireStrike Aug 2014 #3

And a bonus if the cameras littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #5

Or if the suspect is handcuffed on his belly unconscious Tsiyu Aug 2014 #6

I heard that the Officer who shot the young man.... FarPoint Aug 2014 #34

they have the video. savalez Aug 2014 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author avebury Aug 2014 #100

Sounds like one of those "Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam! Blam!..... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #4

It certainly seems like that happens a lot. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #53

Yay, Cops! Iggo Aug 2014 #7

l'm bad at this... ReRe Aug 2014 #8

Hmmm... linuxman Aug 2014 #9

It was a TOY gun! ReRe Aug 2014 #16

Yes, they should BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #19

That's an excellent idea... ReRe Aug 2014 #21

Or no guns BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #22

That's right... ReRe Aug 2014 #25

Are air rifles considered toys? marshall Aug 2014 #68

Nobody but a gun nut would give it to their kid, I agree. n/t ReRe Aug 2014 #92

no air rifles are not toys and many look like real guns rollin74 Aug 2014 #95

Yes and No FreeManNYC Aug 2014 #111

it wasnt a toy gun though Mosby Aug 2014 #70

It was sold in the toy isle, evidently ReRe Aug 2014 #91

They outlawed candy cigarettes being marketed to children, shouldn't they outlaw BB guns Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #87

Absolutely! n/t ReRe Aug 2014 #90

Outlaw toy guns absolutely not! FreeManNYC Aug 2014 #112

Why have toy guns become such a problem... ReRe Aug 2014 #113

Children are also mostly unsupervised marshall Aug 2014 #115

Neglect is so cruel... ReRe Aug 2014 #116

So then no one should open carry Politicalboi Aug 2014 #27

+ a zillion Thank you! truebluegreen Aug 2014 #102

Read post 11 Quackers Aug 2014 #12

Thanks! ReRe Aug 2014 #17

And that makes the cop's actions okay how? I guess Wal-Mart should just valerief Aug 2014 #13

Hello? ReRe Aug 2014 #18

Sorry if I misunderstood. These stories piss me off, too. valerief Aug 2014 #42

Actually the warrior cop thing is associated with the war on drugs. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author KittyWampus Aug 2014 #117

But... Sparhawk60 Aug 2014 #38

Sadly... ReRe Aug 2014 #40

The woman should be charged yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #55

Open Carry is permitted in Ohio exboyfil Aug 2014 #10

My wife's cousin was the woman that died there. Quackers Aug 2014 #11

So sorry to hear that BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #23

I went back and read.... ReRe Aug 2014 #24

I don't think you should post that info. I would self-delete that out of respect cui bono Aug 2014 #74

It's all over the news locally. FarPoint Aug 2014 #82

I'm so very sorry for your loss. FarPoint Aug 2014 #30

"He didn't really want to be looked at and when people did look at him, he was pointing the gun jtuck004 Aug 2014 #14

he was threatening people in the store with this "toy" TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #20

My guess Egnever Aug 2014 #33

/thread Separation Aug 2014 #37

If there was a panic, it was incited by those two 'concerned' citizens BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #41

I agree. savalez Aug 2014 #54

George Zimmerman packaging... FarPoint Aug 2014 #86

What you say makes a hell of a lot of sense. Number23 Aug 2014 #97

The full story comes out LittleBlue Aug 2014 #48

Wow, you believe the report hook line and sinker. savalez Aug 2014 #52

Good post. cwydro Aug 2014 #83

Many customers in the store. FarPoint Aug 2014 #114

Careful RandySF Aug 2014 #26

Oh, not at all. Please do continue. Many views. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #98

Incitement by a the couple who called 911...overreaction by cops KeepItReal Aug 2014 #28

The guy who called 911 is ex military.... FarPoint Aug 2014 #29

Ex military who couldn't tell the difference between a toy and real gun? BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #35

He thinks he is a hero. FarPoint Aug 2014 #36

Crossman models the gun to look real...that's basic to the jingoism HereSince1628 Aug 2014 #39

it wasn't a toy, it was an air rifle rollin74 Aug 2014 #72

It's sold in the toy area and not behind a counter. FarPoint Aug 2014 #84

I thought the gun the victim was holding was from Wal-Mart, that he picked it up in the store? cui bono Aug 2014 #76

He did not bring the toy gun into the store. FarPoint Aug 2014 #80

he was waving it Niceguy1 Aug 2014 #31

According to one source Beaverhausen Aug 2014 #46

My grandson is black gwheezie Aug 2014 #32

Not only do I expect them to be able to liberalhistorian Aug 2014 #43

I didn't play with toy guns a lot as a kid justiceischeap Aug 2014 #45

This fits here, too libodem Aug 2014 #44

Oh, that is perfect! liberalhistorian Aug 2014 #47

Do you not have a Facebook page? cui bono Aug 2014 #77

A police officer told me, in the last few weeks, nilesobek Aug 2014 #49

Well it was the suggestion of many of people here on this site. dilby Aug 2014 #51

what a surprise, when the government puts ads out begging people "see something, say something". unblock Aug 2014 #57

There was an open carry, call 911 movement NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #79

I'd call it the inevitable result of open carrying... truebluegreen Aug 2014 #103

I chimed in because people were attacking the person who called police as a racist. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #105

OK. truebluegreen Aug 2014 #110

I heard a report on the radio this morning......... BronxBoy Aug 2014 #59

Yes. Good points all. nilesobek Aug 2014 #61

I am pretty sure they don't have BB Guns in the toy aisle. dilby Aug 2014 #50

Wrong, they are in an isle. savalez Aug 2014 #93

Thanks for proving my point. dilby Aug 2014 #94

Oh that's right! savalez Aug 2014 #96

Just what happened to the Federal Mandate on orange tips??? Historic NY Aug 2014 #56

It's complicated pokerfan Aug 2014 #71

Airsoft guns are toys. Pellet rifles are not. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #81

Here is a picture of the air rifle in question Lurks Often Aug 2014 #58

NOT a toy gun. It is a real air rifle that fires lead pellets. MineralMan Aug 2014 #62

And where did I say it was a toy gun? Lurks Often Aug 2014 #63

I neither said nor implied that you called it a toy. MineralMan Aug 2014 #64

It certainly came across that way Lurks Often Aug 2014 #66

Well, you certainly interpreted it that way. MineralMan Aug 2014 #69

This was NOT a toy gun, sadly. MineralMan Aug 2014 #60

Aren't these usually boxed up??? BronxBoy Aug 2014 #65

Yes, of course they are. MineralMan Aug 2014 #67

Other links on the local site stated that he didn't have it when he entered, and NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #78

Cops are the most dangerous people in America (nt) Inkfreak Aug 2014 #73

I've handled unboxed pellet guns in Walmart before NickB79 Aug 2014 #85

pic of rifle (from article) yodermon Aug 2014 #88

Officer's "second" shooting victim in 5 years CincyDem Aug 2014 #89

WE WORK FOR YOU!! DiverDave Aug 2014 #99

Walmart should be forced to post a warning: avebury Aug 2014 #101

And they should put orange tips on the muzzles of toy guns marshall Aug 2014 #104

Pellet rifles can't have orange tips. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #106

Pellet air rifles are not toy guns. MineralMan Aug 2014 #107

Look at the velocities on these in the newpaper photo NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #108

Some air rifles do generate that kind of velocity. MineralMan Aug 2014 #109